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Attributes | |
ACN | 438500 |
Time | |
Date | 199905 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 600 |
ASRS Report | 438500 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : company policies |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
Had scheduled 9 hour reduced rest overnight in hou on sunday and instead of receiving rest of 12 hours in dfw on monday, was reduced again. Captain verified with crew coordinator who said it was ok. I am sure this was not ok, because we were scheduled for more than 9 hours flying in 24 hours. That requires 11, reducible to 9, payback 12, we did not get payback. On sunday need 11 hours reduced to 9, payback 12 on monday. On monday got another 9 hours rest overnight. I talked it over with captain who was sure it must be legal since crew coordinator was sure it was legal. I am new with company and was the only one who was questioning the situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT QUESTIONS LEGALITY OF REST PERIOD.
Narrative: HAD SCHEDULED 9 HR REDUCED REST OVERNIGHT IN HOU ON SUNDAY AND INSTEAD OF RECEIVING REST OF 12 HRS IN DFW ON MONDAY, WAS REDUCED AGAIN. CAPT VERIFIED WITH CREW COORDINATOR WHO SAID IT WAS OK. I AM SURE THIS WAS NOT OK, BECAUSE WE WERE SCHEDULED FOR MORE THAN 9 HRS FLYING IN 24 HRS. THAT REQUIRES 11, REDUCIBLE TO 9, PAYBACK 12, WE DID NOT GET PAYBACK. ON SUNDAY NEED 11 HRS REDUCED TO 9, PAYBACK 12 ON MONDAY. ON MONDAY GOT ANOTHER 9 HRS REST OVERNIGHT. I TALKED IT OVER WITH CAPT WHO WAS SURE IT MUST BE LEGAL SINCE CREW COORDINATOR WAS SURE IT WAS LEGAL. I AM NEW WITH COMPANY AND WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO WAS QUESTIONING THE SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.