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Attributes | |
ACN | 438569 |
Time | |
Date | 199905 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : sea.vortac |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 9300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : s46.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : summa |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : s46.tracon |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6900 flight time type : 2200 |
ASRS Report | 438569 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 4900 flight time type : 2300 |
ASRS Report | 438256 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to assigned airspace |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 10000 vertical : 700 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
We were departing sea on the summa 5 departure SID, using runway 34R. At the 8 mi fix, we turned right to a heading of 070 degrees as per the SID. We previously had been cleared to 15000 ft when we had contacted departure control shortly after takeoff. (Initial altitude clearance on the ground from pre departure clearance had been 9000 ft.) we were now on a heading of 070 degrees when ATC (departure) called 'traffic at 10 O'clock, 10000 ft, higher when clear.' neither pilot heard a directive to 'maintain 9000 ft.' I 'rogered' the TA and looked for the traffic. (The advisory occurred as our aircraft was climbing through 7000-8000 ft.) approaching 9000 ft, I visually acquired the other aircraft at 10000 ft, 10 O'clock. At about the same time, our TCASII announced the 'traffic.' (we did not received an RA.) I advised the copilot, who was flying, and he began to level our aircraft. Shortly thereafter, we received a call from ATC to 'descend to 9000 ft.' we acknowledged 'descending to 9000 ft,' and the highest we reached was approximately 9300 ft. I believe a contributing factor to this incident was the lack of a clearance to 'maintain 9000 ft' after the TA. (I called sea TRACON later and confirmed that no 'maintain 9000 ft' had been issued.)
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-300 FLC RECEIVED A TCASII TA ON CLB FROM SEA.
Narrative: WE WERE DEPARTING SEA ON THE SUMMA 5 DEP SID, USING RWY 34R. AT THE 8 MI FIX, WE TURNED R TO A HDG OF 070 DEGS AS PER THE SID. WE PREVIOUSLY HAD BEEN CLRED TO 15000 FT WHEN WE HAD CONTACTED DEP CTL SHORTLY AFTER TKOF. (INITIAL ALT CLRNC ON THE GND FROM PDC HAD BEEN 9000 FT.) WE WERE NOW ON A HDG OF 070 DEGS WHEN ATC (DEP) CALLED 'TFC AT 10 O'CLOCK, 10000 FT, HIGHER WHEN CLR.' NEITHER PLT HEARD A DIRECTIVE TO 'MAINTAIN 9000 FT.' I 'ROGERED' THE TA AND LOOKED FOR THE TFC. (THE ADVISORY OCCURRED AS OUR ACFT WAS CLBING THROUGH 7000-8000 FT.) APCHING 9000 FT, I VISUALLY ACQUIRED THE OTHER ACFT AT 10000 FT, 10 O'CLOCK. AT ABOUT THE SAME TIME, OUR TCASII ANNOUNCED THE 'TFC.' (WE DID NOT RECEIVED AN RA.) I ADVISED THE COPLT, WHO WAS FLYING, AND HE BEGAN TO LEVEL OUR ACFT. SHORTLY THEREAFTER, WE RECEIVED A CALL FROM ATC TO 'DSND TO 9000 FT.' WE ACKNOWLEDGED 'DSNDING TO 9000 FT,' AND THE HIGHEST WE REACHED WAS APPROX 9300 FT. I BELIEVE A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO THIS INCIDENT WAS THE LACK OF A CLRNC TO 'MAINTAIN 9000 FT' AFTER THE TA. (I CALLED SEA TRACON LATER AND CONFIRMED THAT NO 'MAINTAIN 9000 FT' HAD BEEN ISSUED.)
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.