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Attributes | |
ACN | 438826 |
Time | |
Date | 199905 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : pdz.vor |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : prado 5 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 438826 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : separated traffic |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While executing the prado 5 departure/SID out of ont, we temporarily leveled at 4000 ft to meet the restr to cross 6 mi northwest of pdz at 4000 ft. At approximately 6 mi, I began a climb (cleared to 7000 ft). At 4500 ft we were told by socal departure to immediately turn right approximately 90 degrees and stop at 5000 ft. His tone of voice was enough and we immediately went into a 45 degree angle of bank turn to the right. As the captain was looking for the traffic, I was concentrating on the hard turn. As I leveled at 5000 ft the autothrottles were adding power to climb to 7000 ft and the aircraft quickly accelerated to 320 KTS. I immediately reduced power and put out the brakes, while it took the aircraft a couple of mins to slow back to 250 KTS. Socal never explained the conflict or questioned the speed and soon put us back on course. Pdz DME I have noticed on this departure sometimes goes out near the 6 DME restr. In this case at 8 DME it went out I used the map scale on the EFIS to meet my restr. It's a crime that we are allowed to fly B757/B767 aircraft with no TCASII. This would have been a valuable asset.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B767 FREIGHTER WITHOUT TCASII IS GIVEN A SUDDEN TURN AND AMENDED ALT ON A DEP FROM ONT, CA. SPD DEV OCCURRED.
Narrative: WHILE EXECUTING THE PRADO 5 DEP/SID OUT OF ONT, WE TEMPORARILY LEVELED AT 4000 FT TO MEET THE RESTR TO CROSS 6 MI NW OF PDZ AT 4000 FT. AT APPROX 6 MI, I BEGAN A CLB (CLRED TO 7000 FT). AT 4500 FT WE WERE TOLD BY SOCAL DEP TO IMMEDIATELY TURN R APPROX 90 DEGS AND STOP AT 5000 FT. HIS TONE OF VOICE WAS ENOUGH AND WE IMMEDIATELY WENT INTO A 45 DEG ANGLE OF BANK TURN TO THE R. AS THE CAPT WAS LOOKING FOR THE TFC, I WAS CONCENTRATING ON THE HARD TURN. AS I LEVELED AT 5000 FT THE AUTOTHROTTLES WERE ADDING PWR TO CLB TO 7000 FT AND THE ACFT QUICKLY ACCELERATED TO 320 KTS. I IMMEDIATELY REDUCED PWR AND PUT OUT THE BRAKES, WHILE IT TOOK THE ACFT A COUPLE OF MINS TO SLOW BACK TO 250 KTS. SOCAL NEVER EXPLAINED THE CONFLICT OR QUESTIONED THE SPD AND SOON PUT US BACK ON COURSE. PDZ DME I HAVE NOTICED ON THIS DEP SOMETIMES GOES OUT NEAR THE 6 DME RESTR. IN THIS CASE AT 8 DME IT WENT OUT I USED THE MAP SCALE ON THE EFIS TO MEET MY RESTR. IT'S A CRIME THAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO FLY B757/B767 ACFT WITH NO TCASII. THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A VALUABLE ASSET.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.