Pilot of a C150 was instructed to leave the pattern after touch-and-go landing due to advising the controller that his transmission was stepped on or broken up and that his complete clearance was not heard.

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Attributes
ACN	438973
Time
Date	199906
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ral.airport
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl single value : 1700
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : ral.tower
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Cessna 150
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	cruise : level
Route In Use	approach : traffic pattern
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	observation : observer
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 13280 flight time type : 200
ASRS Report	438973
Person 2
Affiliation	other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : private
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 150 flight time type : 150
ASRS Report	438909
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	flight crew : exited adverse environment none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other
Situations
ATC Facility	staffing : ral.tower

Narrative:

Upon making the downwind call to request for touch-and-go, the tower operator and pilot stepped on each other and only the end of the tower's transmission was heard. The pilot then asked again for clearance. The tower operator then came back and said to turn your volume up and listen up. His total rudeness upset me and I, as PNF, told the tower our volume was fine and we were listening and he was broken. In keeping with his rude behavior, he then asked if any aircraft could hear him and was he broken. I came back and said it didn't matter if someone else heard him. We didn't. He then told us his radio was good and ours was bad. As we turned final he told us, cleared for touch and go and leave the pattern. Being the only aircraft in the pattern, I was the only one talking to this individual. I didn't land again because then we would be in the wrong. The tower controller does not have the authority/authorized to turn us away without special circumstances. None existed. We were the only aircraft in the pattern.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PLT OF A C150 WAS INSTRUCTED TO LEAVE THE PATTERN AFTER TOUCH-AND-GO LNDG DUE TO ADVISING THE CTLR THAT HIS XMISSION WAS STEPPED ON OR BROKEN UP AND THAT HIS COMPLETE CLRNC WAS NOT HEARD.

Narrative: UPON MAKING THE DOWNWIND CALL TO REQUEST FOR TOUCH-AND-GO, THE TWR OPERATOR AND PLT STEPPED ON EACH OTHER AND ONLY THE END OF THE TWR'S XMISSION WAS HEARD. THE PLT THEN ASKED AGAIN FOR CLRNC. THE TWR OPERATOR THEN CAME BACK AND SAID TO TURN YOUR VOLUME UP AND LISTEN UP. HIS TOTAL RUDENESS UPSET ME AND I, AS PNF, TOLD THE TWR OUR VOLUME WAS FINE AND WE WERE LISTENING AND HE WAS BROKEN. IN KEEPING WITH HIS RUDE BEHAVIOR, HE THEN ASKED IF ANY ACFT COULD HEAR HIM AND WAS HE BROKEN. I CAME BACK AND SAID IT DIDN'T MATTER IF SOMEONE ELSE HEARD HIM. WE DIDN'T. HE THEN TOLD US HIS RADIO WAS GOOD AND OURS WAS BAD. AS WE TURNED FINAL HE TOLD US, CLRED FOR TOUCH AND GO AND LEAVE THE PATTERN. BEING THE ONLY ACFT IN THE PATTERN, I WAS THE ONLY ONE TALKING TO THIS INDIVIDUAL. I DIDN'T LAND AGAIN BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD BE IN THE WRONG. THE TWR CTLR DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTH TO TURN US AWAY WITHOUT SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES. NONE EXISTED. WE WERE THE ONLY ACFT IN THE PATTERN.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.