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Attributes | |
ACN | 439382 |
Time | |
Date | 199906 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : fnt.vortac |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : fnt.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : polar 1 departure : on vectors departure : noise abatement |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : fnt.tracon |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 439382 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 14500 flight time type : 9000 |
ASRS Report | 439399 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : separated traffic |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 21000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Pre-departure clearance was 'aircraft call sign, cleared to dtw, radar vectors, polar one, maintain 3000 ft, expect 6000 ft in 10 mins, departure control frequency 118.8, squawk XXXX.' departed fnt (flint, mi) airport runway 27, cleared runway heading by tower. Upon handoff to departure control we were instructed to fly runway heading climb to 6000 ft for radar vectors to (here comes the confusion) some intersection (I believed it was an intersection at first) the name I did not catch because it sounded strange (not one that I was expecting to hear). Captain read back climb to 6000 ft fly runway heading for what he believed to be the clearance. No corrections were made by departure control. While I was flying the aircraft through clean up configns and noise abatement power settings the captain advised me I was flying through the VOR radial that I was on runway heading to join to go on to the polar one arrival as departure control wanted. I turned left and joined while climbing and setting power for a short climb to 6000 ft. (This all took place before I could re-look at my arrival plate to catch the fix departure control was vectoring us to, so, I believed it was joining a radial/airway instruction that I didn't catch -- not the name of a fix.) at about 4000 ft MSL ATC advised us to maintain our present altitude and turn to 270 degrees then 330 degrees (right turn). During the leveloff, power reduction and right turn another aircraft appeared on TCASII about 3 1/2 to 4 1/2 mi away several hundred ft above our altitude. The other pilot advised us in sight to ATC. Our captain had him in sight also. No TCASII warning were sounded.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DEP B727 ACR HAS A PROB WITH THE DEP PROC OUT OF FLINT, MI, ENCOUNTERING INBOUNDS FROM THE S.
Narrative: PRE-DEP CLRNC WAS 'ACFT CALL SIGN, CLRED TO DTW, RADAR VECTORS, POLAR ONE, MAINTAIN 3000 FT, EXPECT 6000 FT IN 10 MINS, DEP CTL FREQ 118.8, SQUAWK XXXX.' DEPARTED FNT (FLINT, MI) ARPT RWY 27, CLRED RWY HEADING BY TWR. UPON HDOF TO DEP CTL WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO FLY RWY HEADING CLB TO 6000 FT FOR RADAR VECTORS TO (HERE COMES THE CONFUSION) SOME INTXN (I BELIEVED IT WAS AN INTXN AT FIRST) THE NAME I DID NOT CATCH BECAUSE IT SOUNDED STRANGE (NOT ONE THAT I WAS EXPECTING TO HEAR). CAPT READ BACK CLB TO 6000 FT FLY RWY HEADING FOR WHAT HE BELIEVED TO BE THE CLRNC. NO CORRECTIONS WERE MADE BY DEP CTL. WHILE I WAS FLYING THE ACFT THROUGH CLEAN UP CONFIGNS AND NOISE ABATEMENT PWR SETTINGS THE CAPT ADVISED ME I WAS FLYING THROUGH THE VOR RADIAL THAT I WAS ON RWY HEADING TO JOIN TO GO ON TO THE POLAR ONE ARR AS DEP CTL WANTED. I TURNED L AND JOINED WHILE CLBING AND SETTING PWR FOR A SHORT CLB TO 6000 FT. (THIS ALL TOOK PLACE BEFORE I COULD RE-LOOK AT MY ARR PLATE TO CATCH THE FIX DEP CTL WAS VECTORING US TO, SO, I BELIEVED IT WAS JOINING A RADIAL/AIRWAY INSTRUCTION THAT I DIDN'T CATCH -- NOT THE NAME OF A FIX.) AT ABOUT 4000 FT MSL ATC ADVISED US TO MAINTAIN OUR PRESENT ALT AND TURN TO 270 DEGS THEN 330 DEGS (R TURN). DURING THE LEVELOFF, PWR REDUCTION AND R TURN ANOTHER ACFT APPEARED ON TCASII ABOUT 3 1/2 TO 4 1/2 MI AWAY SEVERAL HUNDRED FT ABOVE OUR ALT. THE OTHER PLT ADVISED US IN SIGHT TO ATC. OUR CAPT HAD HIM IN SIGHT ALSO. NO TCASII WARNING WERE SOUNDED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.