B767 flight crew encounters new FMC equipment for the first time.

Attributes
ACN	439503
Time
Date	199906
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : mia.airport
State Reference	FL
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	other
Flight Phase	ground : parked
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
ASRS Report	439503
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	aircraft equipment problem : less severe
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : fmc other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance Company
Primary Problem	Company

Narrative:

This was an aircraft change from B757 to B767. This was the first time the first officer and I had been on a type X FMC aircraft. I had read the manual and pink bulletins on the type X and had all onboard the aircraft. The tight connect time made it difficult to fully review a system that was new to both of us. I also noted several messages on the flight plan dealing with the system. The first officer and I both felt we had studied the system, but still found hands on learning much more effective and had to reference the checklist numerous times. It was a day VFR flight and allowed the opportunity to do so, however, had WX been a factor, raw data flying would have been necessary. This is a major system change and needs to be treated as such. I feel my first officer and I were ahead of the system and yet we still learned things. On the line is often not a good time for on the job training unless known in advance, such as an IOE.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: B767 FLC ENCOUNTERS NEW FMC EQUIP FOR THE FIRST TIME.

Narrative: THIS WAS AN ACFT CHANGE FROM B757 TO B767. THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THE FO AND I HAD BEEN ON A TYPE X FMC ACFT. I HAD READ THE MANUAL AND PINK BULLETINS ON THE TYPE X AND HAD ALL ONBOARD THE ACFT. THE TIGHT CONNECT TIME MADE IT DIFFICULT TO FULLY REVIEW A SYS THAT WAS NEW TO BOTH OF US. I ALSO NOTED SEVERAL MESSAGES ON THE FLT PLAN DEALING WITH THE SYS. THE FO AND I BOTH FELT WE HAD STUDIED THE SYS, BUT STILL FOUND HANDS ON LEARNING MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE AND HAD TO REF THE CHKLIST NUMEROUS TIMES. IT WAS A DAY VFR FLT AND ALLOWED THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO, HOWEVER, HAD WX BEEN A FACTOR, RAW DATA FLYING WOULD HAVE BEEN NECESSARY. THIS IS A MAJOR SYS CHANGE AND NEEDS TO BE TREATED AS SUCH. I FEEL MY FO AND I WERE AHEAD OF THE SYS AND YET WE STILL LEARNED THINGS. ON THE LINE IS OFTEN NOT A GOOD TIME FOR ON THE JOB TRAINING UNLESS KNOWN IN ADVANCE, SUCH AS AN IOE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.