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Attributes | |
ACN | 439525 |
Time | |
Date | 199906 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bos.airport |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | msl single value : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bos.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 33l other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision approach : visual arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bos.tower |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 439525 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
After being held for 15 mins, we were given a descent for the approach to runway 33L in boston. Another aircraft on approach frequency asked how long final was going to be, and the response was 20 NM. We were then surprised when at 8 NM from the field on downwind we were given a turn, cleared direct to the FAF and cleared for the visual approach. I switched to tower frequency and waited to get a word in. I checked in at just about the FAF and the tower's response was frantic, telling us that we had traffic ahead at 3 mi and we were overtaking by 50 KTS and that we needed to do s-turns to the west if we were to land this pass. This was the first we heard of or saw of this traffic. We made the s-turns and landed safely.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A BOEING 757 FLC WAS TURNED ON FINAL BY BOS TRACON AND ASKED TO MANEUVER FOR SPACING BY BOS TWR.
Narrative: AFTER BEING HELD FOR 15 MINS, WE WERE GIVEN A DSCNT FOR THE APCH TO RWY 33L IN BOSTON. ANOTHER ACFT ON APCH FREQ ASKED HOW LONG FINAL WAS GOING TO BE, AND THE RESPONSE WAS 20 NM. WE WERE THEN SURPRISED WHEN AT 8 NM FROM THE FIELD ON DOWNWIND WE WERE GIVEN A TURN, CLRED DIRECT TO THE FAF AND CLRED FOR THE VISUAL APCH. I SWITCHED TO TWR FREQ AND WAITED TO GET A WORD IN. I CHKED IN AT JUST ABOUT THE FAF AND THE TWR'S RESPONSE WAS FRANTIC, TELLING US THAT WE HAD TFC AHEAD AT 3 MI AND WE WERE OVERTAKING BY 50 KTS AND THAT WE NEEDED TO DO S-TURNS TO THE W IF WE WERE TO LAND THIS PASS. THIS WAS THE FIRST WE HEARD OF OR SAW OF THIS TFC. WE MADE THE S-TURNS AND LANDED SAFELY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.