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Attributes | |
ACN | 439930 |
Time | |
Date | 199906 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dca.airport |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | msl single value : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : dca.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils other localizer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument non precision approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 439930 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to original clearance flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action flight crew : returned to intended course |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
ATC facility: dca tower. Location: rosslyn lda 18. Upon reaching the lda 3.5 DME fix and entering VMC, I came off the gauges. At that time the flight engineer noted helicopter traffic to the left over the river. Rather than turn immediately left to intercept the river visual approach course, I stayed on the lda heading for approximately another 1 - 1 1/2 mi. The first officer then mentioned that we were supposed to be following the river at that point. I then turned the aircraft to intercept the visual approach course, continued, and landed normally. I called the tower later and asked if there was any problem, and the supervisor said none at all. I still felt, however, that the deviation warranted this report.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: VISUAL DEV ON RIVER VISUAL TO DCA TO AVOID VISUAL ACFT TFC BY B727.
Narrative: ATC FACILITY: DCA TWR. LOCATION: ROSSLYN LDA 18. UPON REACHING THE LDA 3.5 DME FIX AND ENTERING VMC, I CAME OFF THE GAUGES. AT THAT TIME THE FE NOTED HELI TFC TO THE L OVER THE RIVER. RATHER THAN TURN IMMEDIATELY L TO INTERCEPT THE RIVER VISUAL APCH COURSE, I STAYED ON THE LDA HDG FOR APPROX ANOTHER 1 - 1 1/2 MI. THE FO THEN MENTIONED THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE FOLLOWING THE RIVER AT THAT POINT. I THEN TURNED THE ACFT TO INTERCEPT THE VISUAL APCH COURSE, CONTINUED, AND LANDED NORMALLY. I CALLED THE TWR LATER AND ASKED IF THERE WAS ANY PROB, AND THE SUPVR SAID NONE AT ALL. I STILL FELT, HOWEVER, THAT THE DEV WARRANTED THIS RPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.