Narrative:

Management and tmu had been advised that the WX was extending to the boundary of the warning areas. Aircraft were advised that the warning areas were active and deviations could not be approved. Tmu would not close the route even though the aircraft are having to be vectored through thunderstorms when warning area airspace is clear. Sealord (the controling agency of the warning areas) would not approve pointouts through the warning areas. This is an unsafe operation. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that the tmu has been very uncooperative in assisting controllers within the facility. The reporter also stated that the recent event described by the reporter is a perfect example of how uncooperative the tmu can be. Asked reporter if there has been any dialogue between the reporter's operations manager and the tmu's support manager to alleviate some of the problems. Reporter said none. Asked reporter is any effort has been made by the facility to ask the military to suspend some of their operations in the warning area(south) when WX conditions exist as the reporter described. Reporter said none.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: RPTR STATES THAT THE WX WAS SUCH THAT THEY HAD NO PLACE TO GO TO AVOID THE WX WITH THE ACFT BECAUSE OF THE WARNING AREAS BEING USED BY THE MIL AND THE RELUCTANCE OF THE TMU TO ASSIST THEM IN SHUTTING OFF THE TFC.

Narrative: MGMNT AND TMU HAD BEEN ADVISED THAT THE WX WAS EXTENDING TO THE BOUNDARY OF THE WARNING AREAS. ACFT WERE ADVISED THAT THE WARNING AREAS WERE ACTIVE AND DEVS COULD NOT BE APPROVED. TMU WOULD NOT CLOSE THE RTE EVEN THOUGH THE ACFT ARE HAVING TO BE VECTORED THROUGH TSTMS WHEN WARNING AREA AIRSPACE IS CLR. SEALORD (THE CTLING AGENCY OF THE WARNING AREAS) WOULD NOT APPROVE POINTOUTS THROUGH THE WARNING AREAS. THIS IS AN UNSAFE OP. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT THE TMU HAS BEEN VERY UNCOOPERATIVE IN ASSISTING CTLRS WITHIN THE FACILITY. THE RPTR ALSO STATED THAT THE RECENT EVENT DESCRIBED BY THE RPTR IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW UNCOOPERATIVE THE TMU CAN BE. ASKED RPTR IF THERE HAS BEEN ANY DIALOGUE BTWN THE RPTR'S OPS MGR AND THE TMU'S SUPPORT MGR TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE PROBS. RPTR SAID NONE. ASKED RPTR IS ANY EFFORT HAS BEEN MADE BY THE FACILITY TO ASK THE MIL TO SUSPEND SOME OF THEIR OPS IN THE WARNING AREA(S) WHEN WX CONDITIONS EXIST AS THE RPTR DESCRIBED. RPTR SAID NONE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.