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A B747-200 freighter flight crew is criticized by dhaka control, vgfr, for not contacting them at their fir boundary. Crew was following note 17 on hi altitude en route chart 1-2, middle e-s asia dated may xa, 1999. Crew questions both the aeronautical chart and the coordination between dhaka and calcutta control.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 440689 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199906 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : ctg.vor |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | msl single value : 37000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : vecc.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B747-100 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : a599.airway |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 340 |
| ASRS Report | 440689 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor Chart Or Publication Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| Publication | Upper Hi Alt 1/2 Middle East/Asia |
Narrative:
Eastbound on A599, past calcutta, we were being controled by calcutta control, and in radar contact. High altitude en route chart, middle east/south asia high altitude 1/2, dated may/xa/99, was being used for navigation by both captain and first officer. Note #17 at chila intersection advises eastbound traffic to contact dhaka, calcutta and yangon ATC, vyyy, at chila. Calcutta control advised contact yangon. Yangon acknowledged position report. Dhaka control was very adamant that we should have contacted them at sumag (192 NM behind us), which is the beginning of the dhaka vgfr fir(G). We are not sure where the error is. Either chart is wrong, or there is a serious communication problem between calcutta control and dhaka control. The airspace is listed as joint dhaka vgfr fir(G) and calcutta vecf, sub-fir(G).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B747-200 FREIGHTER FLC IS CRITICIZED BY DHAKA CTL, VGFR, FOR NOT CONTACTING THEM AT THEIR FIR BOUNDARY. CREW WAS FOLLOWING NOTE 17 ON HI ALT ENRTE CHART 1-2, MIDDLE E-S ASIA DATED MAY XA, 1999. CREW QUESTIONS BOTH THE AERO CHART AND THE COORD BTWN DHAKA AND CALCUTTA CTL.
Narrative: EBOUND ON A599, PAST CALCUTTA, WE WERE BEING CTLED BY CALCUTTA CTL, AND IN RADAR CONTACT. HIGH ALT ENRTE CHART, MIDDLE E/S ASIA HIGH ALT 1/2, DATED MAY/XA/99, WAS BEING USED FOR NAV BY BOTH CAPT AND FO. NOTE #17 AT CHILA INTXN ADVISES EBOUND TFC TO CONTACT DHAKA, CALCUTTA AND YANGON ATC, VYYY, AT CHILA. CALCUTTA CTL ADVISED CONTACT YANGON. YANGON ACKNOWLEDGED POS RPT. DHAKA CTL WAS VERY ADAMANT THAT WE SHOULD HAVE CONTACTED THEM AT SUMAG (192 NM BEHIND US), WHICH IS THE BEGINNING OF THE DHAKA VGFR FIR(G). WE ARE NOT SURE WHERE THE ERROR IS. EITHER CHART IS WRONG, OR THERE IS A SERIOUS COM PROB BTWN CALCUTTA CTL AND DHAKA CTL. THE AIRSPACE IS LISTED AS JOINT DHAKA VGFR FIR(G) AND CALCUTTA VECF, SUB-FIR(G).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.