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Attributes | |
ACN | 441200 |
Time | |
Date | 199906 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phl.airport |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 12 controller time certified in position1 : 7 |
ASRS Report | 441200 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airport Company FAA Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Facility |
Primary Problem | FAA |
Narrative:
Since the loss of lahso's, we have routinely been instructed to run lahso's to runway 35 with up to a 10 KT tailwind. On this date, the surface winds were 220 degrees at 8-9 KTS. Winds at 3000 ft were 180 degrees at 33 KTS. Winds at 2000 ft were 220 degrees at 40 KTS. We routinely run this kind of operation. Although nothing bad has happened yet, I feel that it is only a matter of time. We have also been told that it is an acceptable operation with the airlines to operate with up to a 10 KT tailwind. I am not a pilot, but my previous training teaches me otherwise.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR DOES NOT AGREE THAT A LAHSO ON RWY 35 AT PHL IS ACCEPTABLE WITH UP TO A 10 KT TAILWIND.
Narrative: SINCE THE LOSS OF LAHSO'S, WE HAVE ROUTINELY BEEN INSTRUCTED TO RUN LAHSO'S TO RWY 35 WITH UP TO A 10 KT TAILWIND. ON THIS DATE, THE SURFACE WINDS WERE 220 DEGS AT 8-9 KTS. WINDS AT 3000 FT WERE 180 DEGS AT 33 KTS. WINDS AT 2000 FT WERE 220 DEGS AT 40 KTS. WE ROUTINELY RUN THIS KIND OF OP. ALTHOUGH NOTHING BAD HAS HAPPENED YET, I FEEL THAT IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME. WE HAVE ALSO BEEN TOLD THAT IT IS AN ACCEPTABLE OP WITH THE AIRLINES TO OPERATE WITH UP TO A 10 KT TAILWIND. I AM NOT A PLT, BUT MY PREVIOUS TRAINING TEACHES ME OTHERWISE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.