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Attributes | |
ACN | 441320 |
Time | |
Date | 199906 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iad.airport |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : iad.tracon tower : cjr.tower |
Operator | Other |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 10 flight time total : 3625 flight time type : 270 |
ASRS Report | 441320 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I question whether we may have exceeded our clearance limit. The clearance was from hef to cjr but an in-flight request led to controller instructions to call him on the missed approach out of cjr for a possible ILS practice approach back to hef. He didn't clear us and we canceled IFR, but I am concerned of a possible misinterp of the clearance and his intent which could lead to a safety problem. There were no mitigating factors and the flight proceeded uneventfully other than that specific question.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 PLT PRACTICING APCHS CONCERNED ABOUT CLRNC LIMIT WHEN TOLD TO CONTACT CTLR AFTER APCH FOR AN APCH TO DIFFERENT ARPT. CONTACT WAS MADE AS DIRECTED AND IFR CANCELED.
Narrative: I QUESTION WHETHER WE MAY HAVE EXCEEDED OUR CLRNC LIMIT. THE CLRNC WAS FROM HEF TO CJR BUT AN INFLT REQUEST LED TO CTLR INSTRUCTIONS TO CALL HIM ON THE MISSED APCH OUT OF CJR FOR A POSSIBLE ILS PRACTICE APCH BACK TO HEF. HE DIDN'T CLR US AND WE CANCELED IFR, BUT I AM CONCERNED OF A POSSIBLE MISINTERP OF THE CLRNC AND HIS INTENT WHICH COULD LEAD TO A SAFETY PROB. THERE WERE NO MITIGATING FACTORS AND THE FLT PROCEEDED UNEVENTFULLY OTHER THAN THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.