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Attributes | |
ACN | 442136 |
Time | |
Date | 199907 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : har.vortac |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl single value : 25000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Challenger CL604 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : bunts one |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 1150 |
ASRS Report | 442136 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was told to cross 45 NM west of har VOR on bunts 1 arrival to phl. I read back the clearance, however, the collins 4200 FMS won't accept that since there are intxns within this distance. Message given is 'distance too large,' so in my mental math I accidentally entered 6 NM west of lomon intersection. This is only 25 NM west of har. So we missed the restr this was my fault, however, if the controller understood FMS entries, a clearance of FL250 4 NM west of cofax intersection would have been simple to enter and no chance of misunderstanding. Our usual clearance is to cross cofax intersection at FL250.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CREW SET FMS INCORRECTLY AND FAILED TO MAKE XING RESTR.
Narrative: I WAS TOLD TO CROSS 45 NM W OF HAR VOR ON BUNTS 1 ARR TO PHL. I READ BACK THE CLRNC, HOWEVER, THE COLLINS 4200 FMS WON'T ACCEPT THAT SINCE THERE ARE INTXNS WITHIN THIS DISTANCE. MESSAGE GIVEN IS 'DISTANCE TOO LARGE,' SO IN MY MENTAL MATH I ACCIDENTALLY ENTERED 6 NM W OF LOMON INTXN. THIS IS ONLY 25 NM W OF HAR. SO WE MISSED THE RESTR THIS WAS MY FAULT, HOWEVER, IF THE CTLR UNDERSTOOD FMS ENTRIES, A CLRNC OF FL250 4 NM W OF COFAX INTXN WOULD HAVE BEEN SIMPLE TO ENTER AND NO CHANCE OF MISUNDERSTANDING. OUR USUAL CLRNC IS TO CROSS COFAX INTXN AT FL250.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.