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Attributes | |
ACN | 405830 |
Time | |
Date | 199806 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sjc |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 13300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zoa tracon : oak tower : mia |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 405830 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
ASRS Report | 406155 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On a loupe 9 departure. While steady on a 120 degree heading at 5000 ft, departure issued us the following clearance: aircraft #1 cleared to turn to the VOR at your discretion climb to 12000 ft by the VOR, climb unrestr to FL230. I read back: aircraft #1 is cleared to turn to the VOR at our discretion and climb to FL230, to be at the VOR at or above 12000 ft. We then got a frequency change to 119.47 and I checked in: aircraft #1 passing 12800 ft to FL230. We were within 2 NM of the VOR. The controller rogered our check-in and told us to stop our climb at 13000 ft. I replied that we would level at 13000 ft, but were passing 13300 ft at that time. A few seconds later, as we were approaching the leveloff from above, he reclred us to climb to FL230. Upon arrival at dfw I contacted ZOA and was xferred to bay approach and spoke with a controller. He told me that the tape revealed a miscom between departure and me. They said to cross the VOR at 12000 ft and then unrestr climb to FL230. I read back what I thought was their clearance to climb unrestr to FL230 and pass the VOR at or above 12000 ft. Supplemental information from acn 406155: ZOA asked if bay departure had lifted restr and captain told him the clearance we thought we had been given. In retrospect, we should have questioned the unrestr climb deleting the crossing restr at sjc VOR, but felt the readback was correct.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR B767 FLC INCORRECTLY READ BACK DEP SID CLRNC, MISSING SID XING RESTR. TRACON DEP CTLR MISSED INCORRECT READBACK AND ASSIGNED COM XFER TO ARTCC. ARTCC CTLR OBSERVED HIGHER SID ALT AND ISSUED NEW ALT CLRNC. PLT CTLR REVIEW AFTER REACHING DEST CONFIRMS CTLR DID NOT CATCH INCORRECT READBACK.
Narrative: ON A LOUPE 9 DEP. WHILE STEADY ON A 120 DEG HDG AT 5000 FT, DEP ISSUED US THE FOLLOWING CLRNC: ACFT #1 CLRED TO TURN TO THE VOR AT YOUR DISCRETION CLB TO 12000 FT BY THE VOR, CLB UNRESTR TO FL230. I READ BACK: ACFT #1 IS CLRED TO TURN TO THE VOR AT OUR DISCRETION AND CLB TO FL230, TO BE AT THE VOR AT OR ABOVE 12000 FT. WE THEN GOT A FREQ CHANGE TO 119.47 AND I CHKED IN: ACFT #1 PASSING 12800 FT TO FL230. WE WERE WITHIN 2 NM OF THE VOR. THE CTLR ROGERED OUR CHK-IN AND TOLD US TO STOP OUR CLB AT 13000 FT. I REPLIED THAT WE WOULD LEVEL AT 13000 FT, BUT WERE PASSING 13300 FT AT THAT TIME. A FEW SECONDS LATER, AS WE WERE APCHING THE LEVELOFF FROM ABOVE, HE RECLRED US TO CLB TO FL230. UPON ARR AT DFW I CONTACTED ZOA AND WAS XFERRED TO BAY APCH AND SPOKE WITH A CTLR. HE TOLD ME THAT THE TAPE REVEALED A MISCOM BTWN DEP AND ME. THEY SAID TO CROSS THE VOR AT 12000 FT AND THEN UNRESTR CLB TO FL230. I READ BACK WHAT I THOUGHT WAS THEIR CLRNC TO CLB UNRESTR TO FL230 AND PASS THE VOR AT OR ABOVE 12000 FT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 406155: ZOA ASKED IF BAY DEP HAD LIFTED RESTR AND CAPT TOLD HIM THE CLRNC WE THOUGHT WE HAD BEEN GIVEN. IN RETROSPECT, WE SHOULD HAVE QUESTIONED THE UNRESTR CLB DELETING THE XING RESTR AT SJC VOR, BUT FELT THE READBACK WAS CORRECT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.