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Attributes | |
ACN | 442971 |
Time | |
Date | 199907 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mslp.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl single value : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mslp.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-600, -700, -800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6800 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 442971 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 95.5 flight time total : 2131 flight time type : 95.5 |
ASRS Report | 442801 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
An FMS/VNAV descent was used to begin the descent from cruise altitude. Passing about 24000 ft it was determined that the descent rate was not adequate. A non-VNAV descent mode was activated and spoilers were extended. Workload was high due to IMC conditions, high terrain in the area, an arcing transition, no ATIS available, and foreign language controller communication. In an effort to descend and slow for the approach the first officer and I agreed that gear extension was necessary. We both referred to the landing gear limit speed placard to determine the limit speed. We both read the gear extended speed of 320 KTS and lowered the gear at approximately 300 KTS. After departure from msal and during cruise on the return flight, the first officer and I were discussing the previous arrival. At that time we noticed the correct gear limit speed for extension of 270 KTS. An appropriate logbook entry was made.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 CREW LOWERS LNDG GEAR AT GEAR EXTENDED LIMIT INSTEAD OF GEAR EXTENSION LIMIT.
Narrative: AN FMS/VNAV DSCNT WAS USED TO BEGIN THE DSCNT FROM CRUISE ALT. PASSING ABOUT 24000 FT IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE DSCNT RATE WAS NOT ADEQUATE. A NON-VNAV DSCNT MODE WAS ACTIVATED AND SPOILERS WERE EXTENDED. WORKLOAD WAS HIGH DUE TO IMC CONDITIONS, HIGH TERRAIN IN THE AREA, AN ARCING TRANSITION, NO ATIS AVAILABLE, AND FOREIGN LANGUAGE CTLR COM. IN AN EFFORT TO DSND AND SLOW FOR THE APCH THE FO AND I AGREED THAT GEAR EXTENSION WAS NECESSARY. WE BOTH REFERRED TO THE LNDG GEAR LIMIT SPD PLACARD TO DETERMINE THE LIMIT SPD. WE BOTH READ THE GEAR EXTENDED SPD OF 320 KTS AND LOWERED THE GEAR AT APPROX 300 KTS. AFTER DEP FROM MSAL AND DURING CRUISE ON THE RETURN FLT, THE FO AND I WERE DISCUSSING THE PREVIOUS ARR. AT THAT TIME WE NOTICED THE CORRECT GEAR LIMIT SPD FOR EXTENSION OF 270 KTS. AN APPROPRIATE LOGBOOK ENTRY WAS MADE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.