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Attributes | |
ACN | 443020 |
Time | |
Date | 199907 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pae.airport |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2800 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zse.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : instructional other Other |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other ndb |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument non precision arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zse.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other ndb |
Route In Use | approach : instrument non precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 2000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 443028 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 4 |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While on a training flight with an instrument student, cleared to ritts NDB near pae, at 3000 ft. Another aircraft on the NDB approach ahead of us at 2000 ft. As we approached (approximately 2 mi from) NDB in VFR conditions, given additional repeated, actually clearance from center, which student began copying. Also given TA for aircraft on the approach, which I visually located and advised center. Looking back, noted altitude deviation by student to 2800 ft, which we began to correct for. Center called to verify altitude, we advised at that point '2900 ft correcting to 3000 ft.' a short time later we were told to call center reference to a potential conflict. Center advised us they had a conflict alert due to our deviation. No collision hazard, as visual contact separation was maintained at all times, and we immediately corrected for the altitude deviation, when discovered, prior to center's advisory.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CESSNA 150 INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT DEPARTED FROM ASSIGNED ALT. TRACON RECEIVED A 'CONFLICT ALERT' NEAR PAE.
Narrative: WHILE ON A TRAINING FLT WITH AN INST STUDENT, CLRED TO RITTS NDB NEAR PAE, AT 3000 FT. ANOTHER ACFT ON THE NDB APCH AHEAD OF US AT 2000 FT. AS WE APCHED (APPROX 2 MI FROM) NDB IN VFR CONDITIONS, GIVEN ADDITIONAL REPEATED, ACTUALLY CLRNC FROM CTR, WHICH STUDENT BEGAN COPYING. ALSO GIVEN TA FOR ACFT ON THE APCH, WHICH I VISUALLY LOCATED AND ADVISED CTR. LOOKING BACK, NOTED ALTDEV BY STUDENT TO 2800 FT, WHICH WE BEGAN TO CORRECT FOR. CTR CALLED TO VERIFY ALT, WE ADVISED AT THAT POINT '2900 FT CORRECTING TO 3000 FT.' A SHORT TIME LATER WE WERE TOLD TO CALL CTR REFERENCE TO A POTENTIAL CONFLICT. CTR ADVISED US THEY HAD A CONFLICT ALERT DUE TO OUR DEV. NO COLLISION HAZARD, AS VISUAL CONTACT SEPARATION WAS MAINTAINED AT ALL TIMES, AND WE IMMEDIATELY CORRECTED FOR THE ALTDEV, WHEN DISCOVERED, PRIOR TO CTR'S ADVISORY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.