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Attributes | |
ACN | 444065 |
Time | |
Date | 199907 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : brv.vortac |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl single value : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : iad.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Jetstream 32 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | controller non radar : 10 controller radar : 2 flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 444065 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Situations | |
Chart | star : coatt three sectional : l-27 |
Narrative:
On an IFR flight plan from orf to iad. From hpw, richmond approach cleared us direct (a shortcut) to brv. When we were handed off to dulles approach, we were cleared to 'hold at brv as published.' since we were at our cruise altitude on a shortcut (not on a published anyway) direct to brv, we used our commercial low altitude en route chart to look up the published hold (revised jul/xa/99. The depicted hold was a r-hand pattern at brv on R248. We entered the hold at brv by turning right to the 248 degree outbound heading. Dulles approach then called and gave us vectors saying they expected a l-hand pattern on the brv R214. Note that the coatt 3 STAR shows a hold at brv, l-hand turns, R214. Postflt telephone call to TRACON showed that dulles approach was using government en route charts that depicted the l-hand hold at brv on the R214 which was not what the commercial chart showed (r-hand hold on R248). TRACON asked us to notify chart company of the chart error. Note also that we were not given instructions to 'hold at brv as published on the coatt 3 arrival' which would have been a different, clrer instruction.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: BA32 FLC FLIES ASSIGNED HOLDING PATTERN AT BRV AND DISCOVERS THAT THE PUBLISHED PROC IS DIFFERENT ON SEPARATE CHARTS.
Narrative: ON AN IFR FLT PLAN FROM ORF TO IAD. FROM HPW, RICHMOND APCH CLRED US DIRECT (A SHORTCUT) TO BRV. WHEN WE WERE HANDED OFF TO DULLES APCH, WE WERE CLRED TO 'HOLD AT BRV AS PUBLISHED.' SINCE WE WERE AT OUR CRUISE ALT ON A SHORTCUT (NOT ON A PUBLISHED ANYWAY) DIRECT TO BRV, WE USED OUR COMMERCIAL LOW ALT ENRTE CHART TO LOOK UP THE PUBLISHED HOLD (REVISED JUL/XA/99. THE DEPICTED HOLD WAS A R-HAND PATTERN AT BRV ON R248. WE ENTERED THE HOLD AT BRV BY TURNING R TO THE 248 DEG OUTBOUND HDG. DULLES APCH THEN CALLED AND GAVE US VECTORS SAYING THEY EXPECTED A L-HAND PATTERN ON THE BRV R214. NOTE THAT THE COATT 3 STAR SHOWS A HOLD AT BRV, L-HAND TURNS, R214. POSTFLT TELEPHONE CALL TO TRACON SHOWED THAT DULLES APCH WAS USING GOV ENRTE CHARTS THAT DEPICTED THE L-HAND HOLD AT BRV ON THE R214 WHICH WAS NOT WHAT THE COMMERCIAL CHART SHOWED (R-HAND HOLD ON R248). TRACON ASKED US TO NOTIFY CHART COMPANY OF THE CHART ERROR. NOTE ALSO THAT WE WERE NOT GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS TO 'HOLD AT BRV AS PUBLISHED ON THE COATT 3 ARR' WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT, CLRER INSTRUCTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.