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Attributes | |
ACN | 444066 |
Time | |
Date | 199907 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : vidp.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-10 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 444066 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Company authority/authorized flight crew for '3 engine ferry for maintenance' with cabin crew authority/authorized from del to ams. #1 engine would not develop full takeoff power, which was reason for ferry. Authority/authorized was given over phone lines and I am unsure if it was legally a correct authority/authorized for 2 areas: 1) was it really a 2 engine ferry? 2) if it, in fact, was a 2 engine ferry, were we legal to carry cabin crew? Communication over phones and time zone differences made verification of authority/authorized impossible for crew members. The operations manual should be updated with specific guidance for such a situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DC10 FLC FLEW A '3 ENG FERRY FOR MAINT' WITH FLT ATTENDANTS ON BOARD.
Narrative: COMPANY AUTH FLC FOR '3 ENG FERRY FOR MAINT' WITH CABIN CREW AUTH FROM DEL TO AMS. #1 ENG WOULD NOT DEVELOP FULL TKOF PWR, WHICH WAS REASON FOR FERRY. AUTH WAS GIVEN OVER PHONE LINES AND I AM UNSURE IF IT WAS LEGALLY A CORRECT AUTH FOR 2 AREAS: 1) WAS IT REALLY A 2 ENG FERRY? 2) IF IT, IN FACT, WAS A 2 ENG FERRY, WERE WE LEGAL TO CARRY CABIN CREW? COM OVER PHONES AND TIME ZONE DIFFERENCES MADE VERIFICATION OF AUTH IMPOSSIBLE FOR CREW MEMBERS. THE OPS MANUAL SHOULD BE UPDATED WITH SPECIFIC GUIDANCE FOR SUCH A SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.