DC8 freight operator takes evasive action on climb out from tol.

Attributes
ACN	444601
Time
Date	199907
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : tol.airport
State Reference	OH
Altitude	msl single value : 7100
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dawn
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : tol.tracon
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	DC-8 70
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	climbout : vacating altitude
Route In Use	departure : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tracon : tol.tracon
Make Model Name	Lake Aircraft Undifferentiated or Other Model
Flight Phase	cruise : level
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 11300 flight time type : 350
ASRS Report	444601
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne critical conflict : nmac non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment : gpws other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	flight crew : landed in emergency condition
Miss Distance	horizontal : 200 vertical : 200
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Aircraft
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

Upon climb out from tol, was heading 270 degrees magnetic assigned, cleared to 10000 ft. ATC points out traffic 1 O'clock 'altitude unknown.' the flight engineer first saw aircraft. He called out, 'I spotted it,' and called 'factor' captain was 'hand flying' turned left, descended to evade lake amphib traveling ssw at 7500 ft.' (improper altitude for direction, no altitude encoder!) FAA inspector was performing line check on our crew, reference his report same flight number same day. In this situation, TCASII on our aircraft would be to no avail (in spite of my true fondness for the instrumentation). Perfect testimony for constant vigilance, see and avoid, more sets of trained eyes in the cockpit the better and hand flying to flight levels or 'altitude.'

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: DC8 FREIGHT OPERATOR TAKES EVASIVE ACTION ON CLBOUT FROM TOL.

Narrative: UPON CLBOUT FROM TOL, WAS HDG 270 DEGS MAGNETIC ASSIGNED, CLRED TO 10000 FT. ATC POINTS OUT TFC 1 O'CLOCK 'ALT UNKNOWN.' THE FE FIRST SAW ACFT. HE CALLED OUT, 'I SPOTTED IT,' AND CALLED 'FACTOR' CAPT WAS 'HAND FLYING' TURNED L, DSNDED TO EVADE LAKE AMPHIB TRAVELING SSW AT 7500 FT.' (IMPROPER ALT FOR DIRECTION, NO ALT ENCODER!) FAA INSPECTOR WAS PERFORMING LINE CHK ON OUR CREW, REF HIS RPT SAME FLT NUMBER SAME DAY. IN THIS SIT, TCASII ON OUR ACFT WOULD BE TO NO AVAIL (IN SPITE OF MY TRUE FONDNESS FOR THE INSTRUMENTATION). PERFECT TESTIMONY FOR CONSTANT VIGILANCE, SEE AND AVOID, MORE SETS OF TRAINED EYES IN THE COCKPIT THE BETTER AND HAND FLYING TO FLT LEVELS OR 'ALT.'

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.