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Controller concerned that air crew turned on course sooner than cleared during climb while diverting around WX.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 446229 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199908 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : pxv.vortac |
| State Reference | IN |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3100 msl bound upper : 35000 |
| Environment | |
| Weather Elements | Thunderstorm |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change cruise : descent cruise : level |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 446229 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| ASRS Report | 446230 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : separated traffic |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Facility |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
En route from iad to dfw we encountered a thunderstorm near pocket city. We were deviating north of track to avoid the storm. Center instructed us to turn to 320 degrees for traffic. We were then told to turn further right to 360 degrees. We asked if a climb would help the controller. He said yes, but stand by. We were then told to climb to FL330 and turn to 270 degrees. During the climb, we were asked if we had reached FL330 and we responded not yet and were passing FL325. We were then told to climb to FL350 and report passing FL330. We reported passing FL335 and somewhere between FL335 and FL350 we were told to fly direct to lit. There was a lot of confusion on the radio because of all the transmission and deviations. ZID indicates that we turned to lit before FL330 but that is not what we remember. There may have been some xmissions blocked during the whole evolution. The flight continued without incident to dfw.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CTLR CONCERNED THAT AIR CREW TURNED ON COURSE SOONER THAN CLRED DURING CLB WHILE DIVERTING AROUND WX.
Narrative: ENRTE FROM IAD TO DFW WE ENCOUNTERED A TSTM NEAR POCKET CITY. WE WERE DEVIATING N OF TRACK TO AVOID THE STORM. CTR INSTRUCTED US TO TURN TO 320 DEGS FOR TFC. WE WERE THEN TOLD TO TURN FURTHER R TO 360 DEGS. WE ASKED IF A CLB WOULD HELP THE CTLR. HE SAID YES, BUT STAND BY. WE WERE THEN TOLD TO CLB TO FL330 AND TURN TO 270 DEGS. DURING THE CLB, WE WERE ASKED IF WE HAD REACHED FL330 AND WE RESPONDED NOT YET AND WERE PASSING FL325. WE WERE THEN TOLD TO CLB TO FL350 AND RPT PASSING FL330. WE RPTED PASSING FL335 AND SOMEWHERE BTWN FL335 AND FL350 WE WERE TOLD TO FLY DIRECT TO LIT. THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION ON THE RADIO BECAUSE OF ALL THE XMISSION AND DEVS. ZID INDICATES THAT WE TURNED TO LIT BEFORE FL330 BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT WE REMEMBER. THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME XMISSIONS BLOCKED DURING THE WHOLE EVOLUTION. THE FLT CONTINUED WITHOUT INCIDENT TO DFW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.