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Attributes | |
ACN | 446960 |
Time | |
Date | 199908 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : beauty |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 17000 |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : mip 5 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 446960 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies non adherence : far other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | aircraft : equipment problem dissipated flight crew : overcame equipment problem flight crew : overrode automation flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Mach overspd clacker triggered during descent on MIP5 arrival. Air carrier abc was asked to make best forward speed while on milton arrival to lga. As indicated, speed approached the limit needle in IAS mode -- IAS wheel was rolled to a slower speed and spoilers were deployed. The aircraft pitched nose down upon full deployment of spoilers and tripped the overspd warning. Autothrottles and autoplt were then disconnected to prevent further pitch down and speed increase. A slight increase from 1 G was felt during this event, which is the reason for this report. Method for a smooth recovery from this unusual circumstance is not taught in the time limited simulator sessions during training, which is now advised.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 CREW HAD PITCH DOWN AT STICK SHAKER.
Narrative: MACH OVERSPD CLACKER TRIGGERED DURING DSCNT ON MIP5 ARR. ACR ABC WAS ASKED TO MAKE BEST FORWARD SPD WHILE ON MILTON ARR TO LGA. AS INDICATED, SPD APCHED THE LIMIT NEEDLE IN IAS MODE -- IAS WHEEL WAS ROLLED TO A SLOWER SPD AND SPOILERS WERE DEPLOYED. THE ACFT PITCHED NOSE DOWN UPON FULL DEPLOYMENT OF SPOILERS AND TRIPPED THE OVERSPD WARNING. AUTOTHROTTLES AND AUTOPLT WERE THEN DISCONNECTED TO PREVENT FURTHER PITCH DOWN AND SPD INCREASE. A SLIGHT INCREASE FROM 1 G WAS FELT DURING THIS EVENT, WHICH IS THE REASON FOR THIS RPT. METHOD FOR A SMOOTH RECOVERY FROM THIS UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE IS NOT TAUGHT IN THE TIME LIMITED SIMULATOR SESSIONS DURING TRAINING, WHICH IS NOW ADVISED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.