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Attributes | |
ACN | 447520 |
Time | |
Date | 199908 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : shv.airport |
State Reference | LA |
Altitude | msl single value : 16000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | SF 340A |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 3150 flight time type : 160 |
ASRS Report | 447520 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 153 flight time total : 2450 flight time type : 1130 |
ASRS Report | 447703 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : landed in emergency condition |
Miss Distance | vertical : 600 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Around (still dark), while cruising at 15000 ft on a 230 degree heading, 40 NM southwest of shv, ZFW called traffic to us at 10 O'clock position (10-15 mi, but I'm not sure) and 16000 ft wbound. We called the other aircraft in sight and were told to climb to 16000 ft, the same altitude, and maintain visual separation. After several mins at the same altitude on converging headings, we noticed visually and on the TCASII that the other aircraft was getting a little close and something should be done soon. I immediately called center and asked if they intended to give us a vector around the other aircraft to which the controller responded '(call sign) you were told to maintain visual separation.' we immediately began a turn to the right, away from the other aircraft. At approximately that same time we received a TCASII TA followed by an RA to climb. The saab simultaneously announced that they were descending for a TCASII RA. We flew directly over the top of the other aircraft at approximately 16300 ft while the other aircraft announced that they had descended 300 ft low for a TCASII RA. Our maneuvering was very benign since we saw the situation developing and took appropriate action early. I can only assume the same for the other aircraft. Although the onus was on us to maintain visual separation it was difficult to judge the other aircraft's course and closure in the dark, as it initially appeared to be more paralleling our course. I believe much of this was attributed to the darkness and seeing only blinking lights rather than an aspect angle on the other plane. We eventually realized that our flight paths were going to be too close for comfort, began a turn, and were backed up by the TCASII. In retrospect, I believe that controllers should be very wary of assigning 2 aircraft, which are under their control and on converging courses, to the same altitude during hours of darkness even though instructions are given to maintain visual separation. Darkness can easily play tricks on our perceptions. If we had been assigned separate altitudes or a corrective vector, the entire situation could have been easily avoided. TCASII played a crucial role in directing both aircraft to maneuver vertically in opposite directions.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A BRASILIA FLC WAS UNABLE TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION AFTER ACCEPTING THE SAME ALT AS RPTED TFC NEAR SHV AND RECEIVED A TCASII RA.
Narrative: AROUND (STILL DARK), WHILE CRUISING AT 15000 FT ON A 230 DEG HDG, 40 NM SW OF SHV, ZFW CALLED TFC TO US AT 10 O'CLOCK POS (10-15 MI, BUT I'M NOT SURE) AND 16000 FT WBOUND. WE CALLED THE OTHER ACFT IN SIGHT AND WERE TOLD TO CLB TO 16000 FT, THE SAME ALT, AND MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION. AFTER SEVERAL MINS AT THE SAME ALT ON CONVERGING HEADINGS, WE NOTICED VISUALLY AND ON THE TCASII THAT THE OTHER ACFT WAS GETTING A LITTLE CLOSE AND SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE SOON. I IMMEDIATELY CALLED CTR AND ASKED IF THEY INTENDED TO GIVE US A VECTOR AROUND THE OTHER ACFT TO WHICH THE CTLR RESPONDED '(CALL SIGN) YOU WERE TOLD TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION.' WE IMMEDIATELY BEGAN A TURN TO THE R, AWAY FROM THE OTHER ACFT. AT APPROX THAT SAME TIME WE RECEIVED A TCASII TA FOLLOWED BY AN RA TO CLB. THE SAAB SIMULTANEOUSLY ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WERE DSNDING FOR A TCASII RA. WE FLEW DIRECTLY OVER THE TOP OF THE OTHER ACFT AT APPROX 16300 FT WHILE THE OTHER ACFT ANNOUNCED THAT THEY HAD DSNDED 300 FT LOW FOR A TCASII RA. OUR MANEUVERING WAS VERY BENIGN SINCE WE SAW THE SIT DEVELOPING AND TOOK APPROPRIATE ACTION EARLY. I CAN ONLY ASSUME THE SAME FOR THE OTHER ACFT. ALTHOUGH THE ONUS WAS ON US TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION IT WAS DIFFICULT TO JUDGE THE OTHER ACFT'S COURSE AND CLOSURE IN THE DARK, AS IT INITIALLY APPEARED TO BE MORE PARALLELING OUR COURSE. I BELIEVE MUCH OF THIS WAS ATTRIBUTED TO THE DARKNESS AND SEEING ONLY BLINKING LIGHTS RATHER THAN AN ASPECT ANGLE ON THE OTHER PLANE. WE EVENTUALLY REALIZED THAT OUR FLT PATHS WERE GOING TO BE TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT, BEGAN A TURN, AND WERE BACKED UP BY THE TCASII. IN RETROSPECT, I BELIEVE THAT CTLRS SHOULD BE VERY WARY OF ASSIGNING 2 ACFT, WHICH ARE UNDER THEIR CTL AND ON CONVERGING COURSES, TO THE SAME ALT DURING HRS OF DARKNESS EVEN THOUGH INSTRUCTIONS ARE GIVEN TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION. DARKNESS CAN EASILY PLAY TRICKS ON OUR PERCEPTIONS. IF WE HAD BEEN ASSIGNED SEPARATE ALTS OR A CORRECTIVE VECTOR, THE ENTIRE SIT COULD HAVE BEEN EASILY AVOIDED. TCASII PLAYED A CRUCIAL ROLE IN DIRECTING BOTH ACFT TO MANEUVER VERTICALLY IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.