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Attributes | |
ACN | 447819 |
Time | |
Date | 199908 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : lga.vor |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon tower : btv.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 2490 |
ASRS Report | 447819 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
We were flying up the hudson river, on the river visual runway 13 at lga. Our assigned altitude was 4500 ft MSL. As we were approaching approximately abeam central park, we got a TA, then a TCASII RA for traffic off our left side. We visually acquired the aircraft, an aircraft Y jet twin, probably an airbus. The TCASII indicated it was 500 ft above us. We followed the RA by descending, and I simultaneously announced to new york approach that we were descending, due to the TCASII alert. Approach immediately cleared us to descend to 3500 ft MSL, followed by clearance for the visual approach. I believe the controller simply forgot to descend us to 3500 ft at the normal point on the approach. We had sight of the conflicting traffic, he looked like a definite possibility of conflict, so we followed the RA.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A BOEING 727 FLC RECEIVED A TCASII RA WHILE ON APCH TO LGA, IN N90 CLASS B.
Narrative: WE WERE FLYING UP THE HUDSON RIVER, ON THE RIVER VISUAL RWY 13 AT LGA. OUR ASSIGNED ALT WAS 4500 FT MSL. AS WE WERE APCHING APPROX ABEAM CENTRAL PARK, WE GOT A TA, THEN A TCASII RA FOR TFC OFF OUR L SIDE. WE VISUALLY ACQUIRED THE ACFT, AN ACFT Y JET TWIN, PROBABLY AN AIRBUS. THE TCASII INDICATED IT WAS 500 FT ABOVE US. WE FOLLOWED THE RA BY DSNDING, AND I SIMULTANEOUSLY ANNOUNCED TO NEW YORK APCH THAT WE WERE DSNDING, DUE TO THE TCASII ALERT. APCH IMMEDIATELY CLRED US TO DSND TO 3500 FT MSL, FOLLOWED BY CLRNC FOR THE VISUAL APCH. I BELIEVE THE CTLR SIMPLY FORGOT TO DSND US TO 3500 FT AT THE NORMAL POINT ON THE APCH. WE HAD SIGHT OF THE CONFLICTING TFC, HE LOOKED LIKE A DEFINITE POSSIBILITY OF CONFLICT, SO WE FOLLOWED THE RA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.