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Attributes | |
ACN | 450257 |
Time | |
Date | 199909 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : 06c.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl single value : 600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern arrival : vfr |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | PA-32 Cherokee Six/Lance/Saratoga |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : vfr |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 19 flight time total : 1303 flight time type : 1221 |
ASRS Report | 450257 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : executed go around |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
On the morning of sep/xa/99, I departed lake in the hills airport (3CK) and flew towards schaumburg airport (06C), monitored UHF 123.0 and confirmed that runway 11 was the active. I flew southeast to the intersection of I-90 and barrington road by which time I had descended to between 1700-1800 ft MSL to continue under the floor of the class B airspace. After that, I heard a cessna say that he would be entering downwind for runway 11. I continued southeast while looking for the cessna. Eventually I saw a cessna east of the airport above my altitude and heading in my direction. 'He is above the floor of class B airspace' flashed through my mind. I did not consider him to be my cessna traffic. About then, a saratoga called a few mi south for runway 11. I turned to a heading of about 110 degrees far enough northwest of the runway to be north of traffic on downwind and continued looking for the cessna that had called entering downwind. I got almost to a point directly north of the airport before I saw a cessna to my right on midfield downwind. I then called my downwind entry and turned right 180 degrees to follow him. The cessna turned a normal left base for runway 11. Then the saratoga called for a right base entry to runway 11. The cessna turned final and the saratoga made a right turn to final behind him. I turned a left base after the saratoga passed off my left wing on final. Just as I finished my turn to left base, the saratoga started a right 360 degree turn because he was too close behind the slower cessna. I immediately started a left 360 degree turn and announced '...doing a left 360 degree turn from a left base to allow the saratoga to land' so that he would know what I was doing relative to him. If I had continued, he would probably have rolled out on final as I turned on final! He said thanks and landed, turning off near the far end of the runway. I landed shorter, turned off near mid-field, and held short of the parallel taxiway until he taxied back past me.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF A C172 MADE A 360 DEG TURN IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF A PIPER SARATOGA, PA32, ON FINAL FOR THE SAME RWY AT AN UNCTLED ARPT FOR ADEQUATE SPACING.
Narrative: ON THE MORNING OF SEP/XA/99, I DEPARTED LAKE IN THE HILLS ARPT (3CK) AND FLEW TOWARDS SCHAUMBURG ARPT (06C), MONITORED UHF 123.0 AND CONFIRMED THAT RWY 11 WAS THE ACTIVE. I FLEW SE TO THE INTXN OF I-90 AND BARRINGTON ROAD BY WHICH TIME I HAD DSNDED TO BTWN 1700-1800 FT MSL TO CONTINUE UNDER THE FLOOR OF THE CLASS B AIRSPACE. AFTER THAT, I HEARD A CESSNA SAY THAT HE WOULD BE ENTERING DOWNWIND FOR RWY 11. I CONTINUED SE WHILE LOOKING FOR THE CESSNA. EVENTUALLY I SAW A CESSNA E OF THE ARPT ABOVE MY ALT AND HDG IN MY DIRECTION. 'HE IS ABOVE THE FLOOR OF CLASS B AIRSPACE' FLASHED THROUGH MY MIND. I DID NOT CONSIDER HIM TO BE MY CESSNA TFC. ABOUT THEN, A SARATOGA CALLED A FEW MI S FOR RWY 11. I TURNED TO A HDG OF ABOUT 110 DEGS FAR ENOUGH NW OF THE RWY TO BE N OF TFC ON DOWNWIND AND CONTINUED LOOKING FOR THE CESSNA THAT HAD CALLED ENTERING DOWNWIND. I GOT ALMOST TO A POINT DIRECTLY N OF THE ARPT BEFORE I SAW A CESSNA TO MY R ON MIDFIELD DOWNWIND. I THEN CALLED MY DOWNWIND ENTRY AND TURNED R 180 DEGS TO FOLLOW HIM. THE CESSNA TURNED A NORMAL L BASE FOR RWY 11. THEN THE SARATOGA CALLED FOR A R BASE ENTRY TO RWY 11. THE CESSNA TURNED FINAL AND THE SARATOGA MADE A R TURN TO FINAL BEHIND HIM. I TURNED A L BASE AFTER THE SARATOGA PASSED OFF MY L WING ON FINAL. JUST AS I FINISHED MY TURN TO L BASE, THE SARATOGA STARTED A R 360 DEG TURN BECAUSE HE WAS TOO CLOSE BEHIND THE SLOWER CESSNA. I IMMEDIATELY STARTED A L 360 DEG TURN AND ANNOUNCED '...DOING A L 360 DEG TURN FROM A L BASE TO ALLOW THE SARATOGA TO LAND' SO THAT HE WOULD KNOW WHAT I WAS DOING RELATIVE TO HIM. IF I HAD CONTINUED, HE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE ROLLED OUT ON FINAL AS I TURNED ON FINAL! HE SAID THANKS AND LANDED, TURNING OFF NEAR THE FAR END OF THE RWY. I LANDED SHORTER, TURNED OFF NEAR MID-FIELD, AND HELD SHORT OF THE PARALLEL TXWY UNTIL HE TAXIED BACK PAST ME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.