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Attributes | |
ACN | 451312 |
Time | |
Date | 199910 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Saab-Scania Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 125 flight time total : 5600 flight time type : 3720 |
ASRS Report | 451312 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 3800 flight time type : 230 |
ASRS Report | 451507 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
My aircraft was holding short of runway 35L between runways on taxiway Y. We both heard 'aircraft X cross runway 35L. Landing traffic will hold short of your taxiway.' the first officer answered with 'aircraft X cross runway 35L.' I looked, fully expecting to see an aircraft with all the lights on rolling on the runway, then started to taxi across. Halfway across I realized that the aircraft was taking off. I increased power to expedite crossing. The aircraft rotated and was airborne at about the midpoint of the runway well short of our position. I now believe the controller may have confused my flight number with another, intending to cross someone else on runway 35C. There was no confusion between my first officer and myself about what we heard or whether the clearance was intended for us. We had already stopped short of runway 35L and several takeoffs were made while we waited prior to this event taking place. Dfw is very busy and this type of problem can occur at any time because every flight must cross at least one active runway every time you taxi in or out. Our flts (turboprops) routinely cross 2 active runways on every taxi. The only way to prevent this problem is to either rebuild the entire airport or every person involved must be extremely vigilant so they say it, hear it, and do it right, every time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FLC FLYING AN SF340 AT DFW RPTS CONFUSION WITH ATC INSTRUCTIONS TO TAXI ACROSS AN ACTIVE RWY THAT WAS BEING USED BY ANOTHER ACFT FOR TKOF.
Narrative: MY ACFT WAS HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 35L BTWN RWYS ON TXWY Y. WE BOTH HEARD 'ACFT X CROSS RWY 35L. LNDG TFC WILL HOLD SHORT OF YOUR TXWY.' THE FO ANSWERED WITH 'ACFT X CROSS RWY 35L.' I LOOKED, FULLY EXPECTING TO SEE AN ACFT WITH ALL THE LIGHTS ON ROLLING ON THE RWY, THEN STARTED TO TAXI ACROSS. HALFWAY ACROSS I REALIZED THAT THE ACFT WAS TAKING OFF. I INCREASED PWR TO EXPEDITE XING. THE ACFT ROTATED AND WAS AIRBORNE AT ABOUT THE MIDPOINT OF THE RWY WELL SHORT OF OUR POS. I NOW BELIEVE THE CTLR MAY HAVE CONFUSED MY FLT NUMBER WITH ANOTHER, INTENDING TO CROSS SOMEONE ELSE ON RWY 35C. THERE WAS NO CONFUSION BTWN MY FO AND MYSELF ABOUT WHAT WE HEARD OR WHETHER THE CLRNC WAS INTENDED FOR US. WE HAD ALREADY STOPPED SHORT OF RWY 35L AND SEVERAL TKOFS WERE MADE WHILE WE WAITED PRIOR TO THIS EVENT TAKING PLACE. DFW IS VERY BUSY AND THIS TYPE OF PROB CAN OCCUR AT ANY TIME BECAUSE EVERY FLT MUST CROSS AT LEAST ONE ACTIVE RWY EVERY TIME YOU TAXI IN OR OUT. OUR FLTS (TURBOPROPS) ROUTINELY CROSS 2 ACTIVE RWYS ON EVERY TAXI. THE ONLY WAY TO PREVENT THIS PROB IS TO EITHER REBUILD THE ENTIRE ARPT OR EVERY PERSON INVOLVED MUST BE EXTREMELY VIGILANT SO THEY SAY IT, HEAR IT, AND DO IT RIGHT, EVERY TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.