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A B737-300 first officer, PNF, noted that the captain would not make their crossing restr. ATC gave them a new heading and altitude.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 451760 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199910 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | intersection : fuzzy |
| State Reference | NV |
| Altitude | msl single value : 19000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival star : fuzzy 4 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 8300 flight time type : 1800 |
| ASRS Report | 451760 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Flight from rno-las on fuzzy four arrival, cleared to cross fuzzy intersection at, I believe, 16000 ft or 17000 ft, by ZLA. I left radio frequency #1 to go to #2 radio to receive ATIS and call company for gate information. When I returned I saw that the captain was not going to make the crossing restr, so I told him he was above the profile descent. He realized he was high, so talking to las vegas approach control, approximately 10 mi from fuzzy intersection, the captain told them he was going to be high for the crossing restr and asked for any relief from the restr. Approach control said no problem and told him to turn to an assigned heading and descent and maintain a lower altitude, because we would be flying towards the airport and then making right traffic for runway 1R in las vegas. Again, las vegas approach control said there was not going to be a problem with not meeting the crossing restr, and had assigned a heading off the arrival and a lower altitude to descend to prior to fuzzy intersection.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-300 FO, PNF, NOTED THAT THE CAPT WOULD NOT MAKE THEIR XING RESTR. ATC GAVE THEM A NEW HEADING AND ALT.
Narrative: FLT FROM RNO-LAS ON FUZZY FOUR ARR, CLRED TO CROSS FUZZY INTXN AT, I BELIEVE, 16000 FT OR 17000 FT, BY ZLA. I LEFT RADIO FREQ #1 TO GO TO #2 RADIO TO RECEIVE ATIS AND CALL COMPANY FOR GATE INFO. WHEN I RETURNED I SAW THAT THE CAPT WAS NOT GOING TO MAKE THE XING RESTR, SO I TOLD HIM HE WAS ABOVE THE PROFILE DSCNT. HE REALIZED HE WAS HIGH, SO TALKING TO LAS VEGAS APCH CTL, APPROX 10 MI FROM FUZZY INTXN, THE CAPT TOLD THEM HE WAS GOING TO BE HIGH FOR THE XING RESTR AND ASKED FOR ANY RELIEF FROM THE RESTR. APCH CTL SAID NO PROB AND TOLD HIM TO TURN TO AN ASSIGNED HEADING AND DSCNT AND MAINTAIN A LOWER ALT, BECAUSE WE WOULD BE FLYING TOWARDS THE ARPT AND THEN MAKING R TFC FOR RWY 1R IN LAS VEGAS. AGAIN, LAS VEGAS APCH CTL SAID THERE WAS NOT GOING TO BE A PROB WITH NOT MEETING THE XING RESTR, AND HAD ASSIGNED A HEADING OFF THE ARR AND A LOWER ALT TO DSND TO PRIOR TO FUZZY INTXN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.