37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 452265 |
Time | |
Date | 199910 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sfo.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sfo.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767-300 and 300 ER |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : charted visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sfo.tower |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 1600 |
ASRS Report | 452265 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : executed go around |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airport Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
During big sur arrival to sfo, level at 4000 ft, bay approach asked us if runway in sight. Reply was affirmative, and bay approach cleared us tip toe visual to runway 28L. At turn point for heading to localizer intercept, bay approach changed clearance to quiet bridge visual for runway 28R. Other aircraft, after acknowledging our aircraft in sight, was cleared visual to runway 28L and to maintain visual on our aircraft which was ahead of the airbus. Captain saw the other aircraft behind and left during descent. Inside of the san mateo bridge on glide path and aligned to the right of runway and localizer, captain saw the other aircraft overtaking us and extremely close. Tower cleared us to land runway 28R. At 1500 ft and below, TCASII TA alerted 3 times with a traffic resolution to descend. We were approximately 300 ft AGL and other aircraft was almost abeam. Captain could see the aircraft was higher and above us, extremely close. The other aircraft performed a go around and we landed. Tower asked the reason for go around but we were unable to hear the reply. Captain noted he was able to see cockpit of the other aircraft on short final. Visual approachs to close proximity parallel runways are a concern.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN AIRBUS ON A VISUAL APCH TO SFO PERFORMS A GAR AT ABOUT 300 FT AGL. SFO TWR ASKS WHY THE GAR.
Narrative: DURING BIG SUR ARR TO SFO, LEVEL AT 4000 FT, BAY APCH ASKED US IF RWY IN SIGHT. REPLY WAS AFFIRMATIVE, AND BAY APCH CLRED US TIP TOE VISUAL TO RWY 28L. AT TURN POINT FOR HDG TO LOC INTERCEPT, BAY APCH CHANGED CLRNC TO QUIET BRIDGE VISUAL FOR RWY 28R. OTHER ACFT, AFTER ACKNOWLEDGING OUR ACFT IN SIGHT, WAS CLRED VISUAL TO RWY 28L AND TO MAINTAIN VISUAL ON OUR ACFT WHICH WAS AHEAD OF THE AIRBUS. CAPT SAW THE OTHER ACFT BEHIND AND L DURING DSCNT. INSIDE OF THE SAN MATEO BRIDGE ON GLIDE PATH AND ALIGNED TO THE R OF RWY AND LOC, CAPT SAW THE OTHER ACFT OVERTAKING US AND EXTREMELY CLOSE. TWR CLRED US TO LAND RWY 28R. AT 1500 FT AND BELOW, TCASII TA ALERTED 3 TIMES WITH A TFC RESOLUTION TO DSND. WE WERE APPROX 300 FT AGL AND OTHER ACFT WAS ALMOST ABEAM. CAPT COULD SEE THE ACFT WAS HIGHER AND ABOVE US, EXTREMELY CLOSE. THE OTHER ACFT PERFORMED A GAR AND WE LANDED. TWR ASKED THE REASON FOR GAR BUT WE WERE UNABLE TO HEAR THE REPLY. CAPT NOTED HE WAS ABLE TO SEE COCKPIT OF THE OTHER ACFT ON SHORT FINAL. VISUAL APCHS TO CLOSE PROX PARALLEL RWYS ARE A CONCERN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.