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Attributes | |
ACN | 453740 |
Time | |
Date | 199911 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ewr.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 453740 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe inflight encounter : birds |
Independent Detector | other other : 4 |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Environmental Factor FAA Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
MD80, on climb out, ingested bird. Only notice in cockpit was odor. Everything normal. Suspected odor from left pack temperature being too high. Engine parameters normal. Odor dissipated. After normal flight, mechanic came to cockpit and said #1 engine had ingested a bird. Flight attendants had looked at engine in air and not been able to see anything. As far as human performance considerations -- punitive action is foremost in pilots' minds in dealing with any aviation event. Fear for our jobs because we didn't fill out the correct forms, or make judgements which can later be ridiculed, or violate 1 of thousands of regulations I believe hinders or complicates decisions made while operating aircraft. The punitive attitude of the FAA hinders the safety in a critical situation rather than help the situation. We could do a better job without a cloud of fear hanging over the cockpit.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 CREW HAD BIRD STRIKE.
Narrative: MD80, ON CLBOUT, INGESTED BIRD. ONLY NOTICE IN COCKPIT WAS ODOR. EVERYTHING NORMAL. SUSPECTED ODOR FROM L PACK TEMP BEING TOO HIGH. ENG PARAMETERS NORMAL. ODOR DISSIPATED. AFTER NORMAL FLT, MECH CAME TO COCKPIT AND SAID #1 ENG HAD INGESTED A BIRD. FLT ATTENDANTS HAD LOOKED AT ENG IN AIR AND NOT BEEN ABLE TO SEE ANYTHING. AS FAR AS HUMAN PERFORMANCE CONSIDERATIONS -- PUNITIVE ACTION IS FOREMOST IN PLTS' MINDS IN DEALING WITH ANY AVIATION EVENT. FEAR FOR OUR JOBS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T FILL OUT THE CORRECT FORMS, OR MAKE JUDGEMENTS WHICH CAN LATER BE RIDICULED, OR VIOLATE 1 OF THOUSANDS OF REGS I BELIEVE HINDERS OR COMPLICATES DECISIONS MADE WHILE OPERATING ACFT. THE PUNITIVE ATTITUDE OF THE FAA HINDERS THE SAFETY IN A CRITICAL SIT RATHER THAN HELP THE SIT. WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB WITHOUT A CLOUD OF FEAR HANGING OVER THE COCKPIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.