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Attributes | |
ACN | 454145 |
Time | |
Date | 199911 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : sli.vortac |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : kayoh 4 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 454145 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | unspecified : 6000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure FAA ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
At 7000 ft, 190 KTS between dejay and kayoh on kayoh 4 arrival to sna, socal approach advised us of company traffic, our altitude (7000 ft) at 2 O'clock position heading south, not in radio contact. We acknowledged him in sight and told to maintain VFR contact with him and continue with the arrival. Seconds later, TCASII announced 'traffic, traffic' immediately followed by a 'climb' RA as the traffic went red and merged at our 4-5 O'clock position, less than 1 mi (estimated). First officer (PF) maintained visual. I was informed after landing to call approach due to a pilot deviation. Called and told it was controller error by a supervisor.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 CREW HAD TCASII RA ON THE KAYOH 4 STAR TO SNA.
Narrative: AT 7000 FT, 190 KTS BTWN DEJAY AND KAYOH ON KAYOH 4 ARR TO SNA, SOCAL APCH ADVISED US OF COMPANY TFC, OUR ALT (7000 FT) AT 2 O'CLOCK POS HDG S, NOT IN RADIO CONTACT. WE ACKNOWLEDGED HIM IN SIGHT AND TOLD TO MAINTAIN VFR CONTACT WITH HIM AND CONTINUE WITH THE ARR. SECONDS LATER, TCASII ANNOUNCED 'TFC, TFC' IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWED BY A 'CLB' RA AS THE TFC WENT RED AND MERGED AT OUR 4-5 O'CLOCK POS, LESS THAN 1 MI (ESTIMATED). FO (PF) MAINTAINED VISUAL. I WAS INFORMED AFTER LNDG TO CALL APCH DUE TO A PLTDEV. CALLED AND TOLD IT WAS CTLR ERROR BY A SUPVR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.