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Attributes | |
ACN | 454320 |
Time | |
Date | 199911 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cmh.airport |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl single value : 2100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cmh.tracon tower : cmh.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | MBB-BK 117A-1 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach other |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors arrival : vfr |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cmh.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 5040 flight time type : 1955 |
ASRS Report | 454320 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter other non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | vertical : 700 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Environmental Factor ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
We were on a helicopter mission. We used XXX departure for radar advisories en route to hospital. We were handed off to center and then to ZZZ approach. They then handed us off to ZZZ tower. During this time, I reported a slow descent towards the hospital. I've never flown over this city before and could not make out the airport through the multitude of lights. I had been advised of traffic at my 1-2 O'clock position which I noted. Being within a few mi of the hospital, tower told me to stay north of runway 28 and did I see the traffic lifting off from the airport. I said no traffic observed. The airport was now somewhere behind me, maybe 7 O'clock position I was guessing. At that point I should have slowed to a near hover, being I didn't know where the airport was or the traffic. I did slow down, but continued on my 255 degree heading. The tower asked again if I had the traffic, I said no, but by now I had flown far enough southwest to be crossing the extended centerline of runway 28. Tower then asked if the airline pilot saw the helicopter. They said yes, we were well below them as they continued their climb. Tower then came back to me and said he told me to stay north of runway 28. I said I was unfamiliar with the area. During all this, I was also told by tower to watch for a helicopter operating near the area. Our communication base was also giving me instructions of finding the hospital. As everything seemed to hit the fan at once, I now know to stop where I am -- where I'm safe -- before proceeding on. I was disappointed the tower let the airline take off instead of holding him for 2 mins. The airline pilot twice repeated 'that was really stupid.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LIFE FLT HELI NOT FAMILIAR WITH ARPT GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS BY TRACON TO STAY CLR OF UNFAMILIAR ARPT AREA, THEN CLRS ACR FLT FOR TKOF AT ZZZ.
Narrative: WE WERE ON A HELI MISSION. WE USED XXX DEP FOR RADAR ADVISORIES ENRTE TO HOSPITAL. WE WERE HANDED OFF TO CTR AND THEN TO ZZZ APCH. THEY THEN HANDED US OFF TO ZZZ TWR. DURING THIS TIME, I RPTED A SLOW DSCNT TOWARDS THE HOSPITAL. I'VE NEVER FLOWN OVER THIS CITY BEFORE AND COULD NOT MAKE OUT THE ARPT THROUGH THE MULTITUDE OF LIGHTS. I HAD BEEN ADVISED OF TFC AT MY 1-2 O'CLOCK POS WHICH I NOTED. BEING WITHIN A FEW MI OF THE HOSPITAL, TWR TOLD ME TO STAY N OF RWY 28 AND DID I SEE THE TFC LIFTING OFF FROM THE ARPT. I SAID NO TFC OBSERVED. THE ARPT WAS NOW SOMEWHERE BEHIND ME, MAYBE 7 O'CLOCK POS I WAS GUESSING. AT THAT POINT I SHOULD HAVE SLOWED TO A NEAR HOVER, BEING I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THE ARPT WAS OR THE TFC. I DID SLOW DOWN, BUT CONTINUED ON MY 255 DEG HDG. THE TWR ASKED AGAIN IF I HAD THE TFC, I SAID NO, BUT BY NOW I HAD FLOWN FAR ENOUGH SW TO BE XING THE EXTENDED CTRLINE OF RWY 28. TWR THEN ASKED IF THE AIRLINE PLT SAW THE HELI. THEY SAID YES, WE WERE WELL BELOW THEM AS THEY CONTINUED THEIR CLB. TWR THEN CAME BACK TO ME AND SAID HE TOLD ME TO STAY N OF RWY 28. I SAID I WAS UNFAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. DURING ALL THIS, I WAS ALSO TOLD BY TWR TO WATCH FOR A HELI OPERATING NEAR THE AREA. OUR COM BASE WAS ALSO GIVING ME INSTRUCTIONS OF FINDING THE HOSPITAL. AS EVERYTHING SEEMED TO HIT THE FAN AT ONCE, I NOW KNOW TO STOP WHERE I AM -- WHERE I'M SAFE -- BEFORE PROCEEDING ON. I WAS DISAPPOINTED THE TWR LET THE AIRLINE TAKE OFF INSTEAD OF HOLDING HIM FOR 2 MINS. THE AIRLINE PLT TWICE REPEATED 'THAT WAS REALLY STUPID.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.