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Attributes | |
ACN | 454370 |
Time | |
Date | 199911 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : myf.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 2800 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Citation I |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 454370 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 2900 |
ASRS Report | 454371 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to assigned altitude none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
As PNF, I was handling the communications. The controller was extremely busy and there were occasions when people were stepping on each other. The controller assigned us what we heard as 2800 ft and with urgency in his voice told us to expedite the descent. As is our SOP, I entered 2800 ft on the altitude alerter and the captain repeated the altitude vocally. We went to flight idle and used speed brakes for the descent. When we were level at 2800 ft the controller informed us we had been cleared to 3800 ft. Replied that we had heard and I had read back 2800 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CESSNA 500 ALT MISUNDERSTANDING WITH CTLR 1000 FT DEV NEAR MYF.
Narrative: AS PNF, I WAS HANDLING THE COMS. THE CTLR WAS EXTREMELY BUSY AND THERE WERE OCCASIONS WHEN PEOPLE WERE STEPPING ON EACH OTHER. THE CTLR ASSIGNED US WHAT WE HEARD AS 2800 FT AND WITH URGENCY IN HIS VOICE TOLD US TO EXPEDITE THE DSCNT. AS IS OUR SOP, I ENTERED 2800 FT ON THE ALT ALERTER AND THE CAPT REPEATED THE ALT VOCALLY. WE WENT TO FLT IDLE AND USED SPD BRAKES FOR THE DSCNT. WHEN WE WERE LEVEL AT 2800 FT THE CTLR INFORMED US WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO 3800 FT. REPLIED THAT WE HAD HEARD AND I HAD READ BACK 2800 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.