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Attributes | |
ACN | 454990 |
Time | |
Date | 199911 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msp.airport |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | msl single value : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : m98.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 16500 flight time type : 95 |
ASRS Report | 454990 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 455729 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas |
Resolutory Action | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
At 7000 ft on approach we were being vectored to a downwind behind aircraft Y, a B737. The controller told us to keep the B737 in sight and that we would be following him for the visual approach to runway 12R. He then gave us a frequency change that I mistakenly thought was the tower. We both commented that this seemed early to switch to the tower frequency. We continued behind (on descending to 5000 ft on downwind). We called the msp tower with no response until the second call. That is when the tower told us we were supposed to be on 126.95 instead of 126.7. We went back to 126.95 and were told to stay at 5000 ft and a heading of 300 degrees for vectors to final. We told the controller that we had mistakenly switched to tower frequency because we thought that is what the last controller assigned us along with clearance for the visual approach. His comments were that he wondered where we were and that there was no problem. We were being vectored a little differently than normal for spacing. Just before we got the frequency change, our TCASII said 'traffic, traffic.' it was the aircraft we were being vectored behind. This event shows how human error for whatever reason can begin the chain of events that needs to be broken.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN AIRBUS FLC WAS ON THE WRONG FREQ WHEN DOWNWIND FOR THE MSP ARPT. DURING THIS TIME A TCASII TA WAS RECEIVED FROM THE PRECEDING ACFT.
Narrative: AT 7000 FT ON APCH WE WERE BEING VECTORED TO A DOWNWIND BEHIND ACFT Y, A B737. THE CTLR TOLD US TO KEEP THE B737 IN SIGHT AND THAT WE WOULD BE FOLLOWING HIM FOR THE VISUAL APCH TO RWY 12R. HE THEN GAVE US A FREQ CHANGE THAT I MISTAKENLY THOUGHT WAS THE TWR. WE BOTH COMMENTED THAT THIS SEEMED EARLY TO SWITCH TO THE TWR FREQ. WE CONTINUED BEHIND (ON DSNDING TO 5000 FT ON DOWNWIND). WE CALLED THE MSP TWR WITH NO RESPONSE UNTIL THE SECOND CALL. THAT IS WHEN THE TWR TOLD US WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ON 126.95 INSTEAD OF 126.7. WE WENT BACK TO 126.95 AND WERE TOLD TO STAY AT 5000 FT AND A HDG OF 300 DEGS FOR VECTORS TO FINAL. WE TOLD THE CTLR THAT WE HAD MISTAKENLY SWITCHED TO TWR FREQ BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT IS WHAT THE LAST CTLR ASSIGNED US ALONG WITH CLRNC FOR THE VISUAL APCH. HIS COMMENTS WERE THAT HE WONDERED WHERE WE WERE AND THAT THERE WAS NO PROB. WE WERE BEING VECTORED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN NORMAL FOR SPACING. JUST BEFORE WE GOT THE FREQ CHANGE, OUR TCASII SAID 'TFC, TFC.' IT WAS THE ACFT WE WERE BEING VECTORED BEHIND. THIS EVENT SHOWS HOW HUMAN ERROR FOR WHATEVER REASON CAN BEGIN THE CHAIN OF EVENTS THAT NEEDS TO BE BROKEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.