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Attributes | |
ACN | 455952 |
Time | |
Date | 199911 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-82 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 129 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 188 flight time total : 15064 |
ASRS Report | 455952 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I would like to inform you of the facts that occurred at lax airport. After we landed on runway 25L at lax, the tower controller instructed us during the landing to clear the runway 25L via taxiway north and cross runway 25R and remain on tower frequency. These instructions were read back by the first officer without receiving further communications from the tower controller. While being at taxiway north and after the runway 25R was cleared, we started crossing according to the instructions and at the middle of the runway 25R, the tower controller then gave us the instruction to hold short of runway 25R. We couldn't comply with the instruction because the airplane was in the middle of the runway, as we mentioned before. That's why we expedited crossing the runway. At that moment we saw above us an aircraft, apparently a B757. Later the tower controller said that the instruction was to hold short of the runway and remain on frequency. The first officer told them that he read back the instructions to clear the runway 25L via taxiway north and cross runway 25R remaining on tower control frequency. After that, the tower controller instructed us to change the frequency and they gave us a phone number to contact them.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DIFFERENCE OF OPINION AS TO CLRNC TO CROSS RWY AT LAX.
Narrative: I WOULD LIKE TO INFORM YOU OF THE FACTS THAT OCCURRED AT LAX ARPT. AFTER WE LANDED ON RWY 25L AT LAX, THE TWR CTLR INSTRUCTED US DURING THE LNDG TO CLR THE RWY 25L VIA TXWY N AND CROSS RWY 25R AND REMAIN ON TWR FREQ. THESE INSTRUCTIONS WERE READ BACK BY THE FO WITHOUT RECEIVING FURTHER COMS FROM THE TWR CTLR. WHILE BEING AT TXWY N AND AFTER THE RWY 25R WAS CLRED, WE STARTED XING ACCORDING TO THE INSTRUCTIONS AND AT THE MIDDLE OF THE RWY 25R, THE TWR CTLR THEN GAVE US THE INSTRUCTION TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 25R. WE COULDN'T COMPLY WITH THE INSTRUCTION BECAUSE THE AIRPLANE WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RWY, AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE. THAT'S WHY WE EXPEDITED XING THE RWY. AT THAT MOMENT WE SAW ABOVE US AN ACFT, APPARENTLY A B757. LATER THE TWR CTLR SAID THAT THE INSTRUCTION WAS TO HOLD SHORT OF THE RWY AND REMAIN ON FREQ. THE FO TOLD THEM THAT HE READ BACK THE INSTRUCTIONS TO CLR THE RWY 25L VIA TXWY N AND CROSS RWY 25R REMAINING ON TWR CTL FREQ. AFTER THAT, THE TWR CTLR INSTRUCTED US TO CHANGE THE FREQ AND THEY GAVE US A PHONE NUMBER TO CONTACT THEM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.