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Attributes | |
ACN | 456202 |
Time | |
Date | 199912 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 34000 msl bound upper : 35000 |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Heavy Transport |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | L-1011 Tri-Star All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : non radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller non radar : 7 controller radar : 5 controller time certified in position1 : 7 |
ASRS Report | 456202 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier government : foreign |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Aircraft #1 was level at FL350, filed as an IL62/west, aircraft B was an L101/west, climbed to FL340 underneath with no time crossing non radar. After looking at the flight plan of air carrier X, I noticed that he did not enter mnps airspace. I asked the flight if he was rvsm and mnps certified. He replied 'negative' meaning 1000 ft vertical separation was not legal.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LOSS OF SEPARATION OCCURRED WHEN CTLR ALLOWED AN ACR ILU62 AT FL340 NOT RVSM CERTIFIED AND NOT IN MNPS AIRSPACE COME WITHIN 1000 FT OF AN L1011 ACR AT FL350.
Narrative: ACFT #1 WAS LEVEL AT FL350, FILED AS AN IL62/W, ACFT B WAS AN L101/W, CLBED TO FL340 UNDERNEATH WITH NO TIME XING NON RADAR. AFTER LOOKING AT THE FLT PLAN OF ACR X, I NOTICED THAT HE DID NOT ENTER MNPS AIRSPACE. I ASKED THE FLT IF HE WAS RVSM AND MNPS CERTIFIED. HE REPLIED 'NEGATIVE' MEANING 1000 FT VERT SEPARATION WAS NOT LEGAL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.