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A citation 750 PIC experiences another ongoing near midair collision event with small aircraft traffic while making a visual approach to orl, fl.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 456351 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199912 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : orl.airport |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl single value : 1900 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : orl.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Citation X |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 07 |
| Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : instrument precision approach : visual arrival : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 106 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 110 |
| ASRS Report | 456351 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | FAA Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| Airport | procedure or policy : orl.airport |
Narrative:
TCASII target observed north of me about 2 mi. As I turned final, the target merged and went to 200 ft below, activating TCASII RA. I climbed about 500 ft as the target climbed with me at first, then separated to 400 ft and RA ended. There are always a lot of small planes flying around extended centerline of runway 7/25 at orl. I've had 2 other near midair collision's this yr at this airport. This time I never saw the other plane. I've had numerous discussions with the orlando controllers but there seems to be nothing they can do. The local trainers need to stay away from the final approach area until they are ready to land and talk to the tower.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CITATION 750 PIC EXPERIENCES ANOTHER ONGOING NMAC EVENT WITH SMA TFC WHILE MAKING A VISUAL APCH TO ORL, FL.
Narrative: TCASII TARGET OBSERVED N OF ME ABOUT 2 MI. AS I TURNED FINAL, THE TARGET MERGED AND WENT TO 200 FT BELOW, ACTIVATING TCASII RA. I CLBED ABOUT 500 FT AS THE TARGET CLBED WITH ME AT FIRST, THEN SEPARATED TO 400 FT AND RA ENDED. THERE ARE ALWAYS A LOT OF SMALL PLANES FLYING AROUND EXTENDED CTRLINE OF RWY 7/25 AT ORL. I'VE HAD 2 OTHER NMAC'S THIS YR AT THIS ARPT. THIS TIME I NEVER SAW THE OTHER PLANE. I'VE HAD NUMEROUS DISCUSSIONS WITH THE ORLANDO CTLRS BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE NOTHING THEY CAN DO. THE LCL TRAINERS NEED TO STAY AWAY FROM THE FINAL APCH AREA UNTIL THEY ARE READY TO LAND AND TALK TO THE TWR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.