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Attributes | |
ACN | 456889 |
Time | |
Date | 199912 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lrtm.airport |
State Reference | IA |
Altitude | agl single value : 500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Weather Elements | Rain Fog |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sux.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff cruise : level |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sux.tracon |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Navigation In Use | other ndb |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : missed approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument non precision arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time total : 321 |
ASRS Report | 456889 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter : vfr in imc non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : provided flight assist controller : issued new clearance controller : issued alert flight crew : executed missed approach none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Could not contact sioux city approach from lemars, ia, airport on the ground to get IFR clearance. Took off with intention of staying in class G airspace and VFR. Conditions were 800 ft and 1 1/2 mi. Took off and leveled at approximately 600 ft AGL and contacted approach for a copy of my IFR flight plan. Found out that another airplane was on the VOR runway 36 approach for lemars. I was heading north, but approach told me to head east and asked if I could stay VFR. I said I would try. The other airplane had to break off their approach while approach cleared me IFR back to rochester. If I did bust class east airspace, or flew into visibilities less than 1 mi, clear of clouds, I did not notice, and it was inadvertent. Talked with my instructor, and asked if there was a better way to do this, and he said I could have called the FSS, and gotten the clearance from them with a void time. This would have made everyone's day better.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: VERY LOW TIME INST PLT TOOK OFF FROM LRJ VFR IN IMC, WITH THE INTENTION OF CALLING SUX TRACON TO RECEIVE HIS IFR CLRNC.
Narrative: COULD NOT CONTACT SIOUX CITY APCH FROM LEMARS, IA, ARPT ON THE GND TO GET IFR CLRNC. TOOK OFF WITH INTENTION OF STAYING IN CLASS G AIRSPACE AND VFR. CONDITIONS WERE 800 FT AND 1 1/2 MI. TOOK OFF AND LEVELED AT APPROX 600 FT AGL AND CONTACTED APCH FOR A COPY OF MY IFR FLT PLAN. FOUND OUT THAT ANOTHER AIRPLANE WAS ON THE VOR RWY 36 APCH FOR LEMARS. I WAS HEADING N, BUT APCH TOLD ME TO HEAD E AND ASKED IF I COULD STAY VFR. I SAID I WOULD TRY. THE OTHER AIRPLANE HAD TO BREAK OFF THEIR APCH WHILE APCH CLRED ME IFR BACK TO ROCHESTER. IF I DID BUST CLASS E AIRSPACE, OR FLEW INTO VISIBILITIES LESS THAN 1 MI, CLR OF CLOUDS, I DID NOT NOTICE, AND IT WAS INADVERTENT. TALKED WITH MY INSTRUCTOR, AND ASKED IF THERE WAS A BETTER WAY TO DO THIS, AND HE SAID I COULD HAVE CALLED THE FSS, AND GOTTEN THE CLRNC FROM THEM WITH A VOID TIME. THIS WOULD HAVE MADE EVERYONE'S DAY BETTER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.