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Attributes | |
ACN | 457286 |
Time | |
Date | 199912 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : psp.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 19000 flight time type : 90 |
ASRS Report | 457286 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Situations | |
Airport | lighting : psp.airport markings : psp.airport signage : psp.airport |
Narrative:
Cleared to taxi to runway 13R, with a hold short of runway 13L. We were departing the FBO on the southeast ramp by taxiway B to taxiway C. Taxiway B crosses the end of runway 13L, not the actual runway. It is a confusing setup. Taxiway C is wider than runway 13L and looks more like a runway. Taxiway B actually does not cross runway 13L. You don't feel like you are crossing a runway. I believe signs and different markings are needed. The tower chief told me there had been many of the same events at the same intersection in the last few months. The chart does not correctly depict the width of taxiway C. It appears to be the same width as runway 13R. This is not an excuse. I am a professional and know it is my responsibility, but I do believe more markings are needed at those points.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN EXPERIENCE CPR PLT, TAXIING AT PSP, FOUND THAT TXWYS C AND B, RELATIVE TO RWY 13L, CAUSED CONFUSION DUE TO THE DIFFERENCES IN THEIR RESPECTIVE WIDTHS AND MARKINGS SIGNAGE.
Narrative: CLRED TO TAXI TO RWY 13R, WITH A HOLD SHORT OF RWY 13L. WE WERE DEPARTING THE FBO ON THE SE RAMP BY TXWY B TO TXWY C. TXWY B CROSSES THE END OF RWY 13L, NOT THE ACTUAL RWY. IT IS A CONFUSING SETUP. TXWY C IS WIDER THAN RWY 13L AND LOOKS MORE LIKE A RWY. TXWY B ACTUALLY DOES NOT CROSS RWY 13L. YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU ARE CROSSING A RWY. I BELIEVE SIGNS AND DIFFERENT MARKINGS ARE NEEDED. THE TWR CHIEF TOLD ME THERE HAD BEEN MANY OF THE SAME EVENTS AT THE SAME INTERSECTION IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS. THE CHART DOES NOT CORRECTLY DEPICT THE WIDTH OF TXWY C. IT APPEARS TO BE THE SAME WIDTH AS RWY 13R. THIS IS NOT AN EXCUSE. I AM A PROFESSIONAL AND KNOW IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY, BUT I DO BELIEVE MORE MARKINGS ARE NEEDED AT THOSE POINTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.