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Attributes | |
ACN | 457328 |
Time | |
Date | 199912 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : stl.airport |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Fog Rain |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citation II S2/Bravo |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 85 flight time total : 8450 flight time type : 2200 |
ASRS Report | 457328 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : ground |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airport Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Environmental Factor |
Situations | |
Airport | design : stl.airport markings : stl.airport signage : stl.airport |
Narrative:
Leaving the general aviation ramp with taxi clearance as follows: taxi down runway 31 to taxiway right, hold short of runway 30R. After clearing runway 31 onto taxiway right, a hold short line came into view. I felt that this line was for runway 31 as had I stopped before the line it would have put the aircraft tail too close to runway 31. There was no NOTAM stating that runway 31 was closed, thus I could only assume it was open. So I crossed this line looking ahead for the hold short line that applied to my taxi clearance. Moving ahead a short distance and not seeing another line I stopped my taxi immediately to prevent entering onto runway 30R. After arriving back at my home base, during a telephone conversation with stl tower supervisor. He confirmed to me that they have a real problem with people not holding short in this area. I believe better markings or signage in this area is paramount to preventing this type of occurrence. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter could not recall if the hold line he saw was broken or solid. He said the C-550 is approximately 55 ft long and he was concerned that his tail was out on runway 31.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF A C-550 AT STL, ON TXWY R BETWEEN RWY 31 AND RWY 30R HOLDING FOR TKOF, COULD NOT IDENTIFY THE HOLD BAR FOR EITHER RWY.
Narrative: LEAVING THE GENERAL AVIATION RAMP WITH TAXI CLRNC AS FOLLOWS: TAXI DOWN RWY 31 TO TXWY R, HOLD SHORT OF RWY 30R. AFTER CLRING RWY 31 ONTO TXWY R, A HOLD SHORT LINE CAME INTO VIEW. I FELT THAT THIS LINE WAS FOR RWY 31 AS HAD I STOPPED BEFORE THE LINE IT WOULD HAVE PUT THE ACFT TAIL TOO CLOSE TO RWY 31. THERE WAS NO NOTAM STATING THAT RWY 31 WAS CLOSED, THUS I COULD ONLY ASSUME IT WAS OPEN. SO I CROSSED THIS LINE LOOKING AHEAD FOR THE HOLD SHORT LINE THAT APPLIED TO MY TAXI CLRNC. MOVING AHEAD A SHORT DISTANCE AND NOT SEEING ANOTHER LINE I STOPPED MY TAXI IMMEDIATELY TO PREVENT ENTERING ONTO RWY 30R. AFTER ARRIVING BACK AT MY HOME BASE, DURING A TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WITH STL TWR SUPVR. HE CONFIRMED TO ME THAT THEY HAVE A REAL PROB WITH PEOPLE NOT HOLDING SHORT IN THIS AREA. I BELIEVE BETTER MARKINGS OR SIGNAGE IN THIS AREA IS PARAMOUNT TO PREVENTING THIS TYPE OF OCCURRENCE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR COULD NOT RECALL IF THE HOLD LINE HE SAW WAS BROKEN OR SOLID. HE SAID THE C-550 IS APPROX 55 FT LONG AND HE WAS CONCERNED THAT HIS TAIL WAS OUT ON RWY 31.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.