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Attributes | |
ACN | 457870 |
Time | |
Date | 199912 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sjc.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : roa.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Learjet 60 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | excursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllerb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : became reoriented none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were parked at FBO on the east side of the field. Our initial taxi clearance was to taxi to runway 30L via taxiway Y. As we taxied out of FBO, it became apparent to me that taxiway Y did not go to runway 30L. Taxiway Y only parallels runway 30L. A better taxi instruction would have been something along the lines of 'yc' or 'yb.' we came to a stop at intersection yc and I asked the controller if it was ok to continue to runway 30L via 'charlie.' in speaking with the supervisor, the controller came back and stated 'affirmative, charlie-yankee to runway 30L.' on one hand, he said affirmative to my request to continue to taxi on 'charlie' to runway 30L, but then issued a clearance to continue to taxi via 'yc' to runway 30L. My opinion would have been for the controller to have said 'negative, xxxxx, turn left and continue to taxi via yankee-bravo to runway 30L.' there was very little going on at the field at the time and I feel that the controller should have realized that he had an aircraft holding short of an active runway and was about to cross. We continued to taxi via 'charlie' for an intersection departure from runway 30L. When we called we were then informed of a possible pilot deviation. Possible factors to include in a cause: duty time (11 hours at time of occurrence), night operations, unfamiliarity with east side of airport. The PF did initially question me after we were given the clearance, 'affirmative, charlie yankee to runway 30L.' I told him that we had been cleared to taxi to runway 30L, and, per the aim, included approval to cross all txwys and runways. The initial taxi clearance was confusing at best. In talking with the supervisor after the fact he stated that taxiway Y eventually merges into taxiway B to get you to runway 30L.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CPR LJ60 FLC AT SJC RPTS CONFUSING TAXI INSTRUCTIONS RESULTING IN A POSSIBLE RWY INCURSION.
Narrative: WE WERE PARKED AT FBO ON THE E SIDE OF THE FIELD. OUR INITIAL TAXI CLRNC WAS TO TAXI TO RWY 30L VIA TXWY Y. AS WE TAXIED OUT OF FBO, IT BECAME APPARENT TO ME THAT TXWY Y DID NOT GO TO RWY 30L. TXWY Y ONLY PARALLELS RWY 30L. A BETTER TAXI INSTRUCTION WOULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF 'YC' OR 'YB.' WE CAME TO A STOP AT INTXN YC AND I ASKED THE CTLR IF IT WAS OK TO CONTINUE TO RWY 30L VIA 'CHARLIE.' IN SPEAKING WITH THE SUPVR, THE CTLR CAME BACK AND STATED 'AFFIRMATIVE, CHARLIE-YANKEE TO RWY 30L.' ON ONE HAND, HE SAID AFFIRMATIVE TO MY REQUEST TO CONTINUE TO TAXI ON 'CHARLIE' TO RWY 30L, BUT THEN ISSUED A CLRNC TO CONTINUE TO TAXI VIA 'YC' TO RWY 30L. MY OPINION WOULD HAVE BEEN FOR THE CTLR TO HAVE SAID 'NEGATIVE, XXXXX, TURN L AND CONTINUE TO TAXI VIA YANKEE-BRAVO TO RWY 30L.' THERE WAS VERY LITTLE GOING ON AT THE FIELD AT THE TIME AND I FEEL THAT THE CTLR SHOULD HAVE REALIZED THAT HE HAD AN ACFT HOLDING SHORT OF AN ACTIVE RWY AND WAS ABOUT TO CROSS. WE CONTINUED TO TAXI VIA 'CHARLIE' FOR AN INTXN DEP FROM RWY 30L. WHEN WE CALLED WE WERE THEN INFORMED OF A POSSIBLE PLTDEV. POSSIBLE FACTORS TO INCLUDE IN A CAUSE: DUTY TIME (11 HRS AT TIME OF OCCURRENCE), NIGHT OPS, UNFAMILIARITY WITH E SIDE OF ARPT. THE PF DID INITIALLY QUESTION ME AFTER WE WERE GIVEN THE CLRNC, 'AFFIRMATIVE, CHARLIE YANKEE TO RWY 30L.' I TOLD HIM THAT WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO TAXI TO RWY 30L, AND, PER THE AIM, INCLUDED APPROVAL TO CROSS ALL TXWYS AND RWYS. THE INITIAL TAXI CLRNC WAS CONFUSING AT BEST. IN TALKING WITH THE SUPVR AFTER THE FACT HE STATED THAT TXWY Y EVENTUALLY MERGES INTO TXWY B TO GET YOU TO RWY 30L.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.