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Attributes | |
ACN | 458105 |
Time | |
Date | 199912 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl single value : 25000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-400 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 458105 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met inflight encounter other non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : altimeter other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued advisory |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft Environmental Factor |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were inbound to pit from south and had approximately 90 KT tailwind. We were level cruise at FL310 and approximately 130 NM from ihd and given crossing restr ihd/100 DME at FL240. We acknowledged and entered the 'new' fix into FMC. However, this version of the software would not let us enter the restr altitude FL240. As I was PNF, I tried several ways to enter the altitude and did not 'monitor' our distance to the fix as I should (usually) do. Because of our tailwind the distance closed rapidly. ATC called at about 10-12 mi from the fix and asked if we were going to 'make the restr.' I responded that it would be close and asked first officer to use speed brake and 'dump' the aircraft. ATC advised to 'call out of FL280' for traffic, which was no problem. But we were only FL250 descending at 100 ihd. I don't know why this software problem can't be fixed. Cost? But I know it has caused problems before and will again until it is updated to allow altitude entries on the cruise line. Constant monitoring of position is necessary, possible normally done, but I let my guard down and the abnormal tailwind aggravated the situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-400 MISSES XING RESTR INTO PIT. BLAMES SOFTWARE AND TAILWINDS.
Narrative: WE WERE INBOUND TO PIT FROM S AND HAD APPROX 90 KT TAILWIND. WE WERE LEVEL CRUISE AT FL310 AND APPROX 130 NM FROM IHD AND GIVEN XING RESTR IHD/100 DME AT FL240. WE ACKNOWLEDGED AND ENTERED THE 'NEW' FIX INTO FMC. HOWEVER, THIS VERSION OF THE SOFTWARE WOULD NOT LET US ENTER THE RESTR ALT FL240. AS I WAS PNF, I TRIED SEVERAL WAYS TO ENTER THE ALT AND DID NOT 'MONITOR' OUR DISTANCE TO THE FIX AS I SHOULD (USUALLY) DO. BECAUSE OF OUR TAILWIND THE DISTANCE CLOSED RAPIDLY. ATC CALLED AT ABOUT 10-12 MI FROM THE FIX AND ASKED IF WE WERE GOING TO 'MAKE THE RESTR.' I RESPONDED THAT IT WOULD BE CLOSE AND ASKED FO TO USE SPD BRAKE AND 'DUMP' THE ACFT. ATC ADVISED TO 'CALL OUT OF FL280' FOR TFC, WHICH WAS NO PROB. BUT WE WERE ONLY FL250 DSNDING AT 100 IHD. I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS SOFTWARE PROB CAN'T BE FIXED. COST? BUT I KNOW IT HAS CAUSED PROBS BEFORE AND WILL AGAIN UNTIL IT IS UPDATED TO ALLOW ALT ENTRIES ON THE CRUISE LINE. CONSTANT MONITORING OF POS IS NECESSARY, POSSIBLE NORMALLY DONE, BUT I LET MY GUARD DOWN AND THE ABNORMAL TAILWIND AGGRAVATED THE SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.