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Attributes | |
ACN | 459710 |
Time | |
Date | 200001 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sfo.airport |
State Reference | AB |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3600 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : o90.tracon tower : sfo.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 28r other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : o90.tracon tower : sfo.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 28r |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 6100 |
ASRS Report | 459710 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne critical inflight encounter : weather non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airport |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Note: this is not reported as a near miss because I maintained visual contact with the other aircraft and felt like I was in control of the situation. Flight was cleared for the san francisco FMS bridge visual runway 28R approach while outside of the archie fix. The WX was just above minimums (2100 ft and 5 mi) required for the approach. After being cleared for the approach, we were advised to watch for a brasilia that would be shooting a visual to runway 28L. We made visual contact with the brasilia, observing it to be on a base leg intercept, and were instructed to maintain visual separation. The brasilia was closing on us rapidly just as we entered a broken cloud deck, about 2 mi short of the garow fix. We observed the brasilia on TCASII and as is customary on the sfo parallel approachs, had selected the TCASII to TA to avoid constant warnings during the approach. TCASII showed the brasilia to be extremely close to us. I became concerned with avoiding the brasilia as we were in and out of the clouds and in the process flew below the 'at or above' 4000 ft at the garow fix. I think we were probably at about 3600 ft over garow. The copilot and an air carrier jump seat rider were also so concerned with the brasilia's close proximity that neither of them noticed the descent below the altitude of garow. The traffic in the bay area was quite heavy and the WX was far from clear. We were also given a large airspeed reduction at the same time to pick up minimum spacing on a preceding B757. This undoubtedly contributed to the distraction. The concerns over the brasilia turned out to be well founded. It appeared to us that he was shooting an approach to runway 28R. The copilot asked tower twice if the brasilia was going to runway 28L. The brasilia maintained its right of course track until it was about 2 mi from the runway and then drifted to the left, allowing us to line up with runway 284 at about 500 ft AGL. In summary, I had an altitude deviation over the garow fix, but feel it was justified in the interest of see and avoid. At no time, after I acquired the brasilia, did I feel our aircraft was in jeopardy. In the future, I will not accept an FMS 'visual' in marginal but 'legal' WX conditions.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-300 PIC HAS A POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITH AN E120 WHILE ON AN 'FMS BRIDGE VISUAL' APCH TO RWY 28R AT SFO, CA.
Narrative: NOTE: THIS IS NOT RPTED AS A NEAR MISS BECAUSE I MAINTAINED VISUAL CONTACT WITH THE OTHER ACFT AND FELT LIKE I WAS IN CTL OF THE SIT. FLT WAS CLRED FOR THE SAN FRANCISCO FMS BRIDGE VISUAL RWY 28R APCH WHILE OUTSIDE OF THE ARCHIE FIX. THE WX WAS JUST ABOVE MINIMUMS (2100 FT AND 5 MI) REQUIRED FOR THE APCH. AFTER BEING CLRED FOR THE APCH, WE WERE ADVISED TO WATCH FOR A BRASILIA THAT WOULD BE SHOOTING A VISUAL TO RWY 28L. WE MADE VISUAL CONTACT WITH THE BRASILIA, OBSERVING IT TO BE ON A BASE LEG INTERCEPT, AND WERE INSTRUCTED TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION. THE BRASILIA WAS CLOSING ON US RAPIDLY JUST AS WE ENTERED A BROKEN CLOUD DECK, ABOUT 2 MI SHORT OF THE GAROW FIX. WE OBSERVED THE BRASILIA ON TCASII AND AS IS CUSTOMARY ON THE SFO PARALLEL APCHS, HAD SELECTED THE TCASII TO TA TO AVOID CONSTANT WARNINGS DURING THE APCH. TCASII SHOWED THE BRASILIA TO BE EXTREMELY CLOSE TO US. I BECAME CONCERNED WITH AVOIDING THE BRASILIA AS WE WERE IN AND OUT OF THE CLOUDS AND IN THE PROCESS FLEW BELOW THE 'AT OR ABOVE' 4000 FT AT THE GAROW FIX. I THINK WE WERE PROBABLY AT ABOUT 3600 FT OVER GAROW. THE COPLT AND AN ACR JUMP SEAT RIDER WERE ALSO SO CONCERNED WITH THE BRASILIA'S CLOSE PROX THAT NEITHER OF THEM NOTICED THE DSCNT BELOW THE ALT OF GAROW. THE TFC IN THE BAY AREA WAS QUITE HVY AND THE WX WAS FAR FROM CLR. WE WERE ALSO GIVEN A LARGE AIRSPD REDUCTION AT THE SAME TIME TO PICK UP MINIMUM SPACING ON A PRECEDING B757. THIS UNDOUBTEDLY CONTRIBUTED TO THE DISTR. THE CONCERNS OVER THE BRASILIA TURNED OUT TO BE WELL FOUNDED. IT APPEARED TO US THAT HE WAS SHOOTING AN APCH TO RWY 28R. THE COPLT ASKED TWR TWICE IF THE BRASILIA WAS GOING TO RWY 28L. THE BRASILIA MAINTAINED ITS R OF COURSE TRACK UNTIL IT WAS ABOUT 2 MI FROM THE RWY AND THEN DRIFTED TO THE L, ALLOWING US TO LINE UP WITH RWY 284 AT ABOUT 500 FT AGL. IN SUMMARY, I HAD AN ALTDEV OVER THE GAROW FIX, BUT FEEL IT WAS JUSTIFIED IN THE INTEREST OF SEE AND AVOID. AT NO TIME, AFTER I ACQUIRED THE BRASILIA, DID I FEEL OUR ACFT WAS IN JEOPARDY. IN THE FUTURE, I WILL NOT ACCEPT AN FMS 'VISUAL' IN MARGINAL BUT 'LEGAL' WX CONDITIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.