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C750 flight crew have near midair collision with a VFR C335 while on localizer approximately 11 mi from runway 7 at orl.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 461010 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200001 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : orl.airport |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Citation X |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 7 other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent : vacating altitude |
| Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Cessna 335 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude climbout : initial |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 105 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 125 |
| ASRS Report | 461010 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took evasive action |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Vectored onto approach, asked to slow as much as possible (150 KIAS). We were advised of traffic wbound at 1500 ft, 12 O'clock, 3 mi. We had TCASII contact but could not see due to high deck angle. Then target began to climb and we received RA to climb. Due to our low energy situation we could not climb rapidly. Target passed off our right wing at 2500 ft about 300 ft laterally. (We were both at 2500 ft.) the other plane was climbing wbound into class B airspace while VFR on the localizer path for arrs into orlando executive runway 7. Traffic was at the chaotic stage at TRACON and executive tower. We were even asked to do s-turns at 500 ft to let a C172 land in front of us. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that the incident occurred during a very busy and congested period. He said he first saw the VFR aircraft on TCASII at 1500 ft rapidly climbing both were at 2500 ft when passing. In a discussion with the tower after landing, the reporter was told it could have been any one of a number of aircraft that had departed VFR.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C750 FLC HAVE NMAC WITH A VFR C335 WHILE ON LOC APPROX 11 MI FROM RWY 7 AT ORL.
Narrative: VECTORED ONTO APCH, ASKED TO SLOW AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE (150 KIAS). WE WERE ADVISED OF TFC WBOUND AT 1500 FT, 12 O'CLOCK, 3 MI. WE HAD TCASII CONTACT BUT COULD NOT SEE DUE TO HIGH DECK ANGLE. THEN TARGET BEGAN TO CLB AND WE RECEIVED RA TO CLB. DUE TO OUR LOW ENERGY SIT WE COULD NOT CLB RAPIDLY. TARGET PASSED OFF OUR R WING AT 2500 FT ABOUT 300 FT LATERALLY. (WE WERE BOTH AT 2500 FT.) THE OTHER PLANE WAS CLBING WBOUND INTO CLASS B AIRSPACE WHILE VFR ON THE LOC PATH FOR ARRS INTO ORLANDO EXECUTIVE RWY 7. TFC WAS AT THE CHAOTIC STAGE AT TRACON AND EXECUTIVE TWR. WE WERE EVEN ASKED TO DO S-TURNS AT 500 FT TO LET A C172 LAND IN FRONT OF US. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT THE INCIDENT OCCURRED DURING A VERY BUSY AND CONGESTED PERIOD. HE SAID HE FIRST SAW THE VFR ACFT ON TCASII AT 1500 FT RAPIDLY CLBING BOTH WERE AT 2500 FT WHEN PASSING. IN A DISCUSSION WITH THE TWR AFTER LNDG, THE RPTR WAS TOLD IT COULD HAVE BEEN ANY ONE OF A NUMBER OF ACFT THAT HAD DEPARTED VFR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.