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Attributes | |
ACN | 461113 |
Time | |
Date | 200001 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : ttt.vor |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : phl.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : cqy4 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d10.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 461113 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | other other Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure FAA Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | FAA |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : d10.tracon |
Narrative:
Dfw was in north flow. Flight was assigned the cedar creek 4 (cqy.CQY4) arrival. Flight was descending through 6000 ft to assigned altitude of 5000 ft. Flight was under dfw approach control at 33 DME from maverick (TTT) VOR. ATC issued a TA at the same time TCASII alerted. Visual search produced a C172 on a collision course at 5500 ft. The flight's descent was stopped and an evasive climb begun. Miss distance was zero horizontal and would have been zero vertical if evasive action had not been taken. There would have been a collision! ATC was advised of near miss and an near midair collision was filed with dfw TRACON watch supervisor. The direct cause of the near miss is the dfw arrival procedure design. Turboprop acrs are descended through VFR cruising altitudes just outside the class B airspace where many GA aircraft are circumnaving the airspace. Dfw TRACON needs to redesign the turboprop arrs before a fatal midair happens -- not after! Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: ZFW hands the aircraft off to approach control at 40 DME where approach sends the turbos down to 7000 ft and then 5000 ft, into VFR GA traffic over 30 mi out. The local union has approached the dfw 530 office (plans and procedures) and they are not inclined to change procedures, implying that the jets get preference to the higher altitudes. Reporter stated that the turboprops can comply with any restrs needed and should be kept above the 10000 ft level until within the 30 mi arc of dfw. He further stated that ZTL has a working model where this is done with the jets 1000-2000 ft above. The use of speeds of 250 KTS is not a problem for either type aircraft. The reporter is a pilot union safety representative for the dfw region, a project team member. The dfw airport and ATC procedure has a 'red STAR' from the union and, in the reporter's opinion, ATC seems to be trying for a black STAR. The union is attempting to build a database of these events. The reporter knows of several incidents of nmacs attributed to this procedure. The reporter made certain that the local FSDO of the FAA got the copy of the near midair collision report.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN EMB120 IN DSCNT 33 MI SE OF TTT ALMOST COLLIDES WITH A C172 NEBOUND AT 5500 FT. RPTR STATES THAT ZERO FT VERT SEPARATION WAS CHANGED TO 500 FT BY THE EVASIVE ACTION CLB. PIC CITES ATC APCH CTL PROC AS CAUSAL. DFW, TX.
Narrative: DFW WAS IN NORTH FLOW. FLT WAS ASSIGNED THE CEDAR CREEK 4 (CQY.CQY4) ARR. FLT WAS DSNDING THROUGH 6000 FT TO ASSIGNED ALT OF 5000 FT. FLT WAS UNDER DFW APCH CTL AT 33 DME FROM MAVERICK (TTT) VOR. ATC ISSUED A TA AT THE SAME TIME TCASII ALERTED. VISUAL SEARCH PRODUCED A C172 ON A COLLISION COURSE AT 5500 FT. THE FLT'S DSCNT WAS STOPPED AND AN EVASIVE CLB BEGUN. MISS DISTANCE WAS ZERO HORIZ AND WOULD HAVE BEEN ZERO VERT IF EVASIVE ACTION HAD NOT BEEN TAKEN. THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A COLLISION! ATC WAS ADVISED OF NEAR MISS AND AN NMAC WAS FILED WITH DFW TRACON WATCH SUPVR. THE DIRECT CAUSE OF THE NEAR MISS IS THE DFW ARR PROC DESIGN. TURBOPROP ACRS ARE DSNDED THROUGH VFR CRUISING ALTS JUST OUTSIDE THE CLASS B AIRSPACE WHERE MANY GA ACFT ARE CIRCUMNAVING THE AIRSPACE. DFW TRACON NEEDS TO REDESIGN THE TURBOPROP ARRS BEFORE A FATAL MIDAIR HAPPENS -- NOT AFTER! CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: ZFW HANDS THE ACFT OFF TO APCH CTL AT 40 DME WHERE APCH SENDS THE TURBOS DOWN TO 7000 FT AND THEN 5000 FT, INTO VFR GA TFC OVER 30 MI OUT. THE LCL UNION HAS APCHED THE DFW 530 OFFICE (PLANS AND PROCS) AND THEY ARE NOT INCLINED TO CHANGE PROCS, IMPLYING THAT THE JETS GET PREFERENCE TO THE HIGHER ALTS. RPTR STATED THAT THE TURBOPROPS CAN COMPLY WITH ANY RESTRS NEEDED AND SHOULD BE KEPT ABOVE THE 10000 FT LEVEL UNTIL WITHIN THE 30 MI ARC OF DFW. HE FURTHER STATED THAT ZTL HAS A WORKING MODEL WHERE THIS IS DONE WITH THE JETS 1000-2000 FT ABOVE. THE USE OF SPDS OF 250 KTS IS NOT A PROB FOR EITHER TYPE ACFT. THE RPTR IS A PLT UNION SAFETY REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE DFW REGION, A PROJECT TEAM MEMBER. THE DFW ARPT AND ATC PROC HAS A 'RED STAR' FROM THE UNION AND, IN THE RPTR'S OPINION, ATC SEEMS TO BE TRYING FOR A BLACK STAR. THE UNION IS ATTEMPTING TO BUILD A DATABASE OF THESE EVENTS. THE RPTR KNOWS OF SEVERAL INCIDENTS OF NMACS ATTRIBUTED TO THIS PROC. THE RPTR MADE CERTAIN THAT THE LCL FSDO OF THE FAA GOT THE COPY OF THE NMAC RPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.