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Attributes | |
ACN | 462870 |
Time | |
Date | 200002 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sna.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 800 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure : noise abatement |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 462870 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
ASRS Report | 462990 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | FAA Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure Airport |
Primary Problem | Airspace Structure |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Possible noise violation. We were flying flight abcd from sna-dfw on feb/wed/00. It was the first officer's first trip to sna after training. I conducted a detailed arrival/departure briefing because he was new. All procedures were exactly followed per our manual. At 800 ft the VNAV button was pressed but the deep power cut did not appear to work. I immediately manually pulled the power back to about 1.4 EPR. The power reduction had obviously occurred later than planned. The climb 2 button was pressed and verified prior to departure but I suspect somewhere between this verification and our departure this climb 2 selection disappeared or the thrust rating panel malfunctioned. I have never seen this occur before but I do expect this problem could have caused a noise violation/notation. I felt a power reduction at 800 ft but it probably just went to normal climb power. The profile that occurred was exactly what we would do if we had a autothrottle or a flight director problem. We again both verified and saw a climb 2 annunciation on the upper EICAS set in, but where it went, I do not know. From now on I will verify this climb 2 setting/derate before taking the runway for takeoff.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 CREW DID NOT FOLLOW THE RADICAL PWR REDUCTION ON THE SNA NOISE ABATEMENT PROC.
Narrative: POSSIBLE NOISE VIOLATION. WE WERE FLYING FLT ABCD FROM SNA-DFW ON FEB/WED/00. IT WAS THE FO'S FIRST TRIP TO SNA AFTER TRAINING. I CONDUCTED A DETAILED ARR/DEP BRIEFING BECAUSE HE WAS NEW. ALL PROCS WERE EXACTLY FOLLOWED PER OUR MANUAL. AT 800 FT THE VNAV BUTTON WAS PRESSED BUT THE DEEP PWR CUT DID NOT APPEAR TO WORK. I IMMEDIATELY MANUALLY PULLED THE PWR BACK TO ABOUT 1.4 EPR. THE PWR REDUCTION HAD OBVIOUSLY OCCURRED LATER THAN PLANNED. THE CLB 2 BUTTON WAS PRESSED AND VERIFIED PRIOR TO DEP BUT I SUSPECT SOMEWHERE BTWN THIS VERIFICATION AND OUR DEP THIS CLB 2 SELECTION DISAPPEARED OR THE THRUST RATING PANEL MALFUNCTIONED. I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS OCCUR BEFORE BUT I DO EXPECT THIS PROB COULD HAVE CAUSED A NOISE VIOLATION/NOTATION. I FELT A PWR REDUCTION AT 800 FT BUT IT PROBABLY JUST WENT TO NORMAL CLB PWR. THE PROFILE THAT OCCURRED WAS EXACTLY WHAT WE WOULD DO IF WE HAD A AUTOTHROTTLE OR A FLT DIRECTOR PROB. WE AGAIN BOTH VERIFIED AND SAW A CLB 2 ANNUNCIATION ON THE UPPER EICAS SET IN, BUT WHERE IT WENT, I DO NOT KNOW. FROM NOW ON I WILL VERIFY THIS CLB 2 SETTING/DERATE BEFORE TAKING THE RWY FOR TKOF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.