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Attributes | |
ACN | 463782 |
Time | |
Date | 200002 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las.airport |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 463782 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 3 |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport FAA Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Airport | procedure or policy : las.airport signage : las.airport |
Narrative:
Air carrier flight abc requested taxi from ramp (pushed from gate abc). Received clearance to taxiway south to taxiway G to taxiway west to taxiway B to BRAVO5. Proceeded on taxiway south. Aircraft had no taxi light. We were looking for taxiway G when we saw the runway sign for runway 19L. I applied the brakes and stopped abruptly. We gave ramp a call and indicated that we missed taxiway G. They had us give ground a call. When we gave ground a call, we told them we were on taxiway south short of the runway. Ground gave us instructions to make the left turn onto the runway and make the first available left turn and continue our taxi to runway 25R. We did as instructed. The intersection of txwys G and south is not marked with taxiway signs. Ramp control seems to be running part of ground control. The aircraft did not have a taxiway light compounding the problem. As soon as we saw the runway sign, we stopped and asked questions before proceeding blindly forward. We also noticed multiple signs missing at multiple intxns at las vegas. Las vegas needs better communication and handling between ramp and ground control. In addition, for aircraft without taxi lights or sits which might reduce visibility, taxiway signs become imperative and add confusion when there are none.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727 CREW HAD RWY INCURSION AT NIGHT AT LAS.
Narrative: ACR FLT ABC REQUESTED TAXI FROM RAMP (PUSHED FROM GATE ABC). RECEIVED CLRNC TO TXWY S TO TXWY G TO TXWY W TO TXWY B TO BRAVO5. PROCEEDED ON TXWY S. ACFT HAD NO TAXI LIGHT. WE WERE LOOKING FOR TXWY G WHEN WE SAW THE RWY SIGN FOR RWY 19L. I APPLIED THE BRAKES AND STOPPED ABRUPTLY. WE GAVE RAMP A CALL AND INDICATED THAT WE MISSED TXWY G. THEY HAD US GIVE GND A CALL. WHEN WE GAVE GND A CALL, WE TOLD THEM WE WERE ON TXWY S SHORT OF THE RWY. GND GAVE US INSTRUCTIONS TO MAKE THE L TURN ONTO THE RWY AND MAKE THE FIRST AVAILABLE L TURN AND CONTINUE OUR TAXI TO RWY 25R. WE DID AS INSTRUCTED. THE INTXN OF TXWYS G AND S IS NOT MARKED WITH TXWY SIGNS. RAMP CTL SEEMS TO BE RUNNING PART OF GND CTL. THE ACFT DID NOT HAVE A TXWY LIGHT COMPOUNDING THE PROB. AS SOON AS WE SAW THE RWY SIGN, WE STOPPED AND ASKED QUESTIONS BEFORE PROCEEDING BLINDLY FORWARD. WE ALSO NOTICED MULTIPLE SIGNS MISSING AT MULTIPLE INTXNS AT LAS VEGAS. LAS VEGAS NEEDS BETTER COM AND HANDLING BTWN RAMP AND GND CTL. IN ADDITION, FOR ACFT WITHOUT TAXI LIGHTS OR SITS WHICH MIGHT REDUCE VISIBILITY, TXWY SIGNS BECOME IMPERATIVE AND ADD CONFUSION WHEN THERE ARE NONE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.