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Attributes | |
ACN | 465776 |
Time | |
Date | 200005 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sjc.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : parked ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 465776 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 11800 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 465840 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : far non adherence : company policies |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Crew was rerouted after minimum rest period. Plane had to be delayed 40 mins to allow crew to be legal for flight. After passenger were loaded, a ground/baggage person came to the cockpit. He talked with me about the cargo net in bin #2. He gave me the impression there was nothing seriously wrong with it, but I might have it inspected by company maintenance personnel (he and maintenance personnel were contract workers) when I got to my destination. He went on to say everything was safely secured. I thanked him and returned to the task of getting the plane out in an expeditious manner. The flight operated normally. Since I wanted our maintenance to look at the net in cargo bin #2, I put what the baggage handler had relayed to me in the flight logbook. The problem is that I should have inspected the net in cargo bin #2 when the baggage handler brought it to my attention. If it warranted a write-up, I should have written it up and had it looked at (or MEL'ed) at that time. The way I handled the situation, it could be construed I took the plane with an open write-up. I know better -- rushed because we were late, somewhat tired because our rest period was cut short by 4 hours without advance notice, I used poor judgement in handling this situation. Our maintenance determined nothing was so wrong with the net that it needed immediate attention, but the point remains, anytime, anyone -- a passenger, a baggage handler, a flight attendant and, of course, even another pilot questions anything about the plane, it's worthy of my taking notice and investigating the situation. Supplemental information from acn 465840: in hindsight if there was a problem the logbook write-up should have been made before leaving xyz and the problem corrected then.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT HAS SECOND THOUGHTS ABOUT HAVING FLOWN WITH A CARGO NET RPTED LESS THAN IDEAL CONDITION AT THE DEP STATION. WRITES MAINT LOG ITEM AT DEST AND WORRIES THAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE HE FLEW WITH AN OPEN ITEM.
Narrative: CREW WAS REROUTED AFTER MINIMUM REST PERIOD. PLANE HAD TO BE DELAYED 40 MINS TO ALLOW CREW TO BE LEGAL FOR FLT. AFTER PAX WERE LOADED, A GND/BAGGAGE PERSON CAME TO THE COCKPIT. HE TALKED WITH ME ABOUT THE CARGO NET IN BIN #2. HE GAVE ME THE IMPRESSION THERE WAS NOTHING SERIOUSLY WRONG WITH IT, BUT I MIGHT HAVE IT INSPECTED BY COMPANY MAINT PERSONNEL (HE AND MAINT PERSONNEL WERE CONTRACT WORKERS) WHEN I GOT TO MY DEST. HE WENT ON TO SAY EVERYTHING WAS SAFELY SECURED. I THANKED HIM AND RETURNED TO THE TASK OF GETTING THE PLANE OUT IN AN EXPEDITIOUS MANNER. THE FLT OPERATED NORMALLY. SINCE I WANTED OUR MAINT TO LOOK AT THE NET IN CARGO BIN #2, I PUT WHAT THE BAGGAGE HANDLER HAD RELAYED TO ME IN THE FLT LOGBOOK. THE PROB IS THAT I SHOULD HAVE INSPECTED THE NET IN CARGO BIN #2 WHEN THE BAGGAGE HANDLER BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTN. IF IT WARRANTED A WRITE-UP, I SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN IT UP AND HAD IT LOOKED AT (OR MEL'ED) AT THAT TIME. THE WAY I HANDLED THE SIT, IT COULD BE CONSTRUED I TOOK THE PLANE WITH AN OPEN WRITE-UP. I KNOW BETTER -- RUSHED BECAUSE WE WERE LATE, SOMEWHAT TIRED BECAUSE OUR REST PERIOD WAS CUT SHORT BY 4 HRS WITHOUT ADVANCE NOTICE, I USED POOR JUDGEMENT IN HANDLING THIS SIT. OUR MAINT DETERMINED NOTHING WAS SO WRONG WITH THE NET THAT IT NEEDED IMMEDIATE ATTN, BUT THE POINT REMAINS, ANYTIME, ANYONE -- A PAX, A BAGGAGE HANDLER, A FLT ATTENDANT AND, OF COURSE, EVEN ANOTHER PLT QUESTIONS ANYTHING ABOUT THE PLANE, IT'S WORTHY OF MY TAKING NOTICE AND INVESTIGATING THE SIT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 465840: IN HINDSIGHT IF THERE WAS A PROB THE LOGBOOK WRITE-UP SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE BEFORE LEAVING XYZ AND THE PROB CORRECTED THEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.