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Attributes | |
ACN | 467540 |
Time | |
Date | 200003 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mke.airport |
State Reference | WI |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 467540 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8969 flight time type : 1456 |
ASRS Report | 467369 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : taxiway non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After pushback from the gate, ground was called and clearance to taxi to runway 7R was received. I taxied via txwys K, east, a to runway 7R. Halfway to the runway I was switched to another frequency which was the tower supervisor who gave us a phone number to call. After arrival in cvg I called. Supervisor was concerned about my choice of taxi route to runway 7R. Since he thought I was instructed to txwys B, a to runway 7R. I explained how I wanted to avoid ramp congestion so I took txwys K, east, a and neither the first officer or I heard the controller say taxiway B to runway 7R. Further discussion of diligence in listening to radio calls and following taxi instructions occurred with the conversation ending on a positive note by both parties. Supplemental information from acn 467369: given clearance to taxi. 'Taxi to runway 7R' I repeated the clearance. Captain taxied to 'taxiway B' then I asked why he was going to txwys K, east, a' to go to runway 7R. He wanted to avoid the aircraft on the ramp near taxiway B and had been given that specific routing all other times in mke. 'Txwys, K, east, a' parallels taxiway B and at some point you need to leave taxiway B to get to taxiway a anyway. Ground controller pointed out traffic on taxiway T exiting the runway and asked them to wait for us to clear. Captain relayed that the ground controller specifically told us to use taxiway B. We disagreed. Controller was asked about a review of the tape but did not respond to the captain's question. Controller stated other things to the captain and then said it was only fact finding due to numerous problems in mke.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MD88 CAPT TAXIES HIS ACFT BY A DIFFERENT RTE THAN THAT ASSIGNED BY THE GND CTLR AT MKE, WI.
Narrative: AFTER PUSHBACK FROM THE GATE, GND WAS CALLED AND CLRNC TO TAXI TO RWY 7R WAS RECEIVED. I TAXIED VIA TXWYS K, E, A TO RWY 7R. HALFWAY TO THE RWY I WAS SWITCHED TO ANOTHER FREQ WHICH WAS THE TWR SUPVR WHO GAVE US A PHONE NUMBER TO CALL. AFTER ARR IN CVG I CALLED. SUPVR WAS CONCERNED ABOUT MY CHOICE OF TAXI RTE TO RWY 7R. SINCE HE THOUGHT I WAS INSTRUCTED TO TXWYS B, A TO RWY 7R. I EXPLAINED HOW I WANTED TO AVOID RAMP CONGESTION SO I TOOK TXWYS K, E, A AND NEITHER THE FO OR I HEARD THE CTLR SAY TXWY B TO RWY 7R. FURTHER DISCUSSION OF DILIGENCE IN LISTENING TO RADIO CALLS AND FOLLOWING TAXI INSTRUCTIONS OCCURRED WITH THE CONVERSATION ENDING ON A POSITIVE NOTE BY BOTH PARTIES. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 467369: GIVEN CLRNC TO TAXI. 'TAXI TO RWY 7R' I REPEATED THE CLRNC. CAPT TAXIED TO 'TXWY B' THEN I ASKED WHY HE WAS GOING TO TXWYS K, E, A' TO GO TO RWY 7R. HE WANTED TO AVOID THE ACFT ON THE RAMP NEAR TXWY B AND HAD BEEN GIVEN THAT SPECIFIC ROUTING ALL OTHER TIMES IN MKE. 'TXWYS, K, E, A' PARALLELS TXWY B AND AT SOME POINT YOU NEED TO LEAVE TXWY B TO GET TO TXWY A ANYWAY. GND CTLR POINTED OUT TFC ON TXWY T EXITING THE RWY AND ASKED THEM TO WAIT FOR US TO CLR. CAPT RELAYED THAT THE GND CTLR SPECIFICALLY TOLD US TO USE TXWY B. WE DISAGREED. CTLR WAS ASKED ABOUT A REVIEW OF THE TAPE BUT DID NOT RESPOND TO THE CAPT'S QUESTION. CTLR STATED OTHER THINGS TO THE CAPT AND THEN SAID IT WAS ONLY FACT FINDING DUE TO NUMEROUS PROBS IN MKE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.