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Attributes | |
ACN | 468680 |
Time | |
Date | 200004 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tus.airport |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | other |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 1100 |
ASRS Report | 468680 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airport Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
First trip to tus for both cockpit crew members. WX was not a factor (day VFR). Approached tus from the southeast over sso. Downwind 8000 ft for runway 11L tus. Responded to tus tower we had runway in sight. Tus tower cleared us for visual runway 11L. Seeing that we were a little high, asked tower if we could extend downwind. Approval was given, but not to extend too far because of additional inbound traffic. Turning base received a TCASII TA. While looking for traffic continued to turn base. Spotted traffic (civilian single engine) no factor. Having turned further on base than I realized and looking over my shoulder for the runway I picked up runway at davis monthan. Then received another TA (TCASII). Traffic spotted (civilian single engine) no factor. With angling approach and xchking EFIS map, realized it was not tus runway 11L. Instead of making a sharp right turn to line up with tus runway 11L, I asked for a left turn back downwind. Made visual approach and landing at tus runway 11L. Contributing factors: first time to airport, multiple TA's and tunnel vision. One possible solution would be on initial check-in with approach control and tower, stating first time to airport. This would be for cockpit crews landing at new airports for the first time, whereby keying controllers to allow a little more spacing, preventing slam dunks and providing a third set of eyes to first timers.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A320 CREW HAD MULTIPLE TCASII TA'S AND REQUESTED A PATTERN EXTENSION AT TUS.
Narrative: FIRST TRIP TO TUS FOR BOTH COCKPIT CREW MEMBERS. WX WAS NOT A FACTOR (DAY VFR). APCHED TUS FROM THE SE OVER SSO. DOWNWIND 8000 FT FOR RWY 11L TUS. RESPONDED TO TUS TWR WE HAD RWY IN SIGHT. TUS TWR CLRED US FOR VISUAL RWY 11L. SEEING THAT WE WERE A LITTLE HIGH, ASKED TWR IF WE COULD EXTEND DOWNWIND. APPROVAL WAS GIVEN, BUT NOT TO EXTEND TOO FAR BECAUSE OF ADDITIONAL INBOUND TFC. TURNING BASE RECEIVED A TCASII TA. WHILE LOOKING FOR TFC CONTINUED TO TURN BASE. SPOTTED TFC (CIVILIAN SINGLE ENG) NO FACTOR. HAVING TURNED FURTHER ON BASE THAN I REALIZED AND LOOKING OVER MY SHOULDER FOR THE RWY I PICKED UP RWY AT DAVIS MONTHAN. THEN RECEIVED ANOTHER TA (TCASII). TFC SPOTTED (CIVILIAN SINGLE ENG) NO FACTOR. WITH ANGLING APCH AND XCHKING EFIS MAP, REALIZED IT WAS NOT TUS RWY 11L. INSTEAD OF MAKING A SHARP R TURN TO LINE UP WITH TUS RWY 11L, I ASKED FOR A L TURN BACK DOWNWIND. MADE VISUAL APCH AND LNDG AT TUS RWY 11L. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: FIRST TIME TO ARPT, MULTIPLE TA'S AND TUNNEL VISION. ONE POSSIBLE SOLUTION WOULD BE ON INITIAL CHK-IN WITH APCH CTL AND TWR, STATING FIRST TIME TO ARPT. THIS WOULD BE FOR COCKPIT CREWS LNDG AT NEW ARPTS FOR THE FIRST TIME, WHEREBY KEYING CTLRS TO ALLOW A LITTLE MORE SPACING, PREVENTING SLAM DUNKS AND PROVIDING A THIRD SET OF EYES TO FIRST TIMERS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.