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Attributes | |
ACN | 470375 |
Time | |
Date | 200004 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lan.airport |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl single value : 37000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Snow Rain Ice Turbulence Thunderstorm |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | BAe 125 Series 800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 3200 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 470375 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude inflight encounter : turbulence inflight encounter : weather other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance Weather |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Narrative:
While in cruise at FL370, we encountered the top of a thunderstorm. WX radar did not detect the storm. We flew through an area of supercooled rain, ice, and snow. After passing through this area, the autoplt disconnected and the pilot's pitot static indications were lost (pitot static heat was operational). The left automatic flight control system was inoperative along with the right automatic flight control system. Pitot static indications on the right (copilot's) became erratic. The captain relinquished control of the aircraft to me. This sequence of events occurred in less than 60 seconds. Due to the turbulence associated with the WX, the loss of the left and right automatic flight control system and the associated difficulties of flying an aircraft at FL370 without a flight director a loss of 500 ft occurred. After a short period of time (5 mins) we regained use of the automatic flight control system. ATC was not advised nor did they advise us of the deviation. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter stated the pitot and static heat was operative and switched on at the time of the incident. The reporter said the first officer's flight instruments, altimeter and airspeed indicator were operative throughout this event. The reporter said the instruments were driven by air data computers left and right. The reporter stated the hawker 800 had a history of this type of anomaly where environmental data was lost in turbulence. The reporter said maintenance was unable to verify the report and all system checked ok.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A HAWKER BAE125-800A IN CRUISE AT FL370 ENCOUNTERED A TSTM RESULTING IN LOSS OF ENVIRONMENTAL SENSING CAUSING AN ALTDEV.
Narrative: WHILE IN CRUISE AT FL370, WE ENCOUNTERED THE TOP OF A TSTM. WX RADAR DID NOT DETECT THE STORM. WE FLEW THROUGH AN AREA OF SUPERCOOLED RAIN, ICE, AND SNOW. AFTER PASSING THROUGH THIS AREA, THE AUTOPLT DISCONNECTED AND THE PLT'S PITOT STATIC INDICATIONS WERE LOST (PITOT STATIC HEAT WAS OPERATIONAL). THE L AUTOMATIC FLT CTL SYS WAS INOP ALONG WITH THE R AUTOMATIC FLT CTL SYS. PITOT STATIC INDICATIONS ON THE R (COPLT'S) BECAME ERRATIC. THE CAPT RELINQUISHED CTL OF THE ACFT TO ME. THIS SEQUENCE OF EVENTS OCCURRED IN LESS THAN 60 SECONDS. DUE TO THE TURB ASSOCIATED WITH THE WX, THE LOSS OF THE L AND R AUTOMATIC FLT CTL SYS AND THE ASSOCIATED DIFFICULTIES OF FLYING AN ACFT AT FL370 WITHOUT A FLT DIRECTOR A LOSS OF 500 FT OCCURRED. AFTER A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME (5 MINS) WE REGAINED USE OF THE AUTOMATIC FLT CTL SYS. ATC WAS NOT ADVISED NOR DID THEY ADVISE US OF THE DEV. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR STATED THE PITOT AND STATIC HEAT WAS OPERATIVE AND SWITCHED ON AT THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT. THE RPTR SAID THE FO'S FLT INSTS, ALTIMETER AND AIRSPD INDICATOR WERE OPERATIVE THROUGHOUT THIS EVENT. THE RPTR SAID THE INSTS WERE DRIVEN BY AIR DATA COMPUTERS L AND R. THE RPTR STATED THE HAWKER 800 HAD A HISTORY OF THIS TYPE OF ANOMALY WHERE ENVIRONMENTAL DATA WAS LOST IN TURB. THE RPTR SAID MAINT WAS UNABLE TO VERIFY THE RPT AND ALL SYS CHKED OK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.