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Attributes | |
ACN | 470371 |
Time | |
Date | 200004 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 2880 |
ASRS Report | 470371 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 6400 |
ASRS Report | 470300 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
On clearance to takeoff, tower asked if we had the commuter in sight -- yes we did. We were cleared for takeoff and told to maintain visual separation. The aircraft would turn left at the shoreline. On departure, immediately after the turboprop, we gained on him very rapidly. It did not seem like they were going to turn. Our rate of climb was approximately 4000 FPM. As we gained on him, both the captain and I focused our attention on the traffic and our rate of closure. As we approached the turboprop we began to hear our altitude alerting system. We attempted to level off as quickly as possible, but did reach 2400 ft (our assigned 2000 ft). We were immediately given climb to 5000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TFC WATCH ON DEP PROVIDES ENOUGH DISTR TO CAUSE AN ALT OVERSHOOT AT LAX, CA.
Narrative: ON CLRNC TO TKOF, TWR ASKED IF WE HAD THE COMMUTER IN SIGHT -- YES WE DID. WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF AND TOLD TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION. THE ACFT WOULD TURN L AT THE SHORELINE. ON DEP, IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TURBOPROP, WE GAINED ON HIM VERY RAPIDLY. IT DID NOT SEEM LIKE THEY WERE GOING TO TURN. OUR RATE OF CLB WAS APPROX 4000 FPM. AS WE GAINED ON HIM, BOTH THE CAPT AND I FOCUSED OUR ATTN ON THE TFC AND OUR RATE OF CLOSURE. AS WE APCHED THE TURBOPROP WE BEGAN TO HEAR OUR ALT ALERTING SYS. WE ATTEMPTED TO LEVEL OFF AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, BUT DID REACH 2400 FT (OUR ASSIGNED 2000 FT). WE WERE IMMEDIATELY GIVEN CLB TO 5000 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.